Races of the Wild - First Impressions

[MerricB]

For the extra spell known and extra highest level spell per day what exactly is the disadvantage in taking Generalist Elf Wizard?

You can't specialise.

You aren't a human or gnome.

Cheers!

 

[MerricB]

Really? Sun Elf anyone?

Honestly, I don't think the generalist wizard goes well with some of the elven subraces - I'd be very wary of allowing a Gray Elf generalist wizard. However, I'd be wary of allowing a Gray Elf in the first place.

Cheers!

 

[Belen]

Sammael has some good points. WOTC only playtests in house these days. With the small staff that they have now, I do not trust there work as extensively as I used too. It's still good, but only because they seem to have a strict formula for rules design. They do not really expand the rules rather they just build upn them in small increments, usually thinking of ways to break core precepts or utlilize "useless" things like turn undead by allowing powerful feats to be powered by it.

And Merric, you're a great guy, but WOTC should be paying you out of their marketing budget. Although I do enjoy reading your descriptions of the books.

On the other hand, elves make horrible wizards. They take a hit to con with a d4 HD and they really do not get anything to help them out in their favored class.

Personally, I have not gotten any of the races books. I do not agree with the added complexity of the sub levels. The rules are complex enough without further staining the waters.

 

[Vocenoctum]

You can't specialise.

You aren't a human or gnome.

Cheers!

In general I like the Sub Levels, but if the only limitation is that you can't specialize, that seems a bit pointless to me.

What about the other levels, what do you give up for them?

 

[Vocenoctum]

Personally, I have not gotten any of the races books. I do not agree with the added complexity of the sub levels. The rules are complex enough without further staining the waters.

Personally, I was looking to ditch Favored Class, replacing it with Sub Levels instead to give the feel of the other races abilities with certain classes.

The vast majority of my players take Human for the bonus feat and that's that.

 

[Remathilis]

Honestly, I don't think the generalist wizard goes well with some of the elven subraces - I'd be very wary of allowing a Gray Elf generalist wizard. However, I'd be wary of allowing a Gray Elf in the first place.

Cheers!

This is why I've done away with sub-races in my game. Oh they EXIST... but no one is gonna be able to play one.

Rather add Raptoran and Goliaths than "smart elves" and "woodsy" elves and "fishy" elves to the PC list...

 

[Remathilis]

You can't specialise.

You aren't a human or gnome.

Cheers!

and in my game, you give up your scribe scroll feet.

I have SPOKUN!

 

[MerricB]

In general I like the Sub Levels, but if the only limitation is that you can't specialize, that seems a bit pointless to me.

What about the other levels, what do you give up for them?

3rd level: Natural Link - the bonus your familiar gives to skill checks, saves or hp doubles; but you give up the ability for the familiar to deliver touch spells and its ability to speak with other animals of its type.

5th level: instead of a metamagic feat, you can choose Defensive Archery, Far Shot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot or Weapon Focus (a bow type).

Cheers!

 

[JoeGKushner]

Sounds like this book may be in the stores now eh? I could've swore that I didn't see it at Games Plus. Ah well, another trek then.

As far as racial substitution levels, maybe I'm just too much of a fan of WoTC material, but I really enjoy them. I'd love to see some more like those found in the Planar Handbook that take a different aspect of the game and give you substitition levels. Maybe Battlefield Adventuers will have something like that?

 

[Navar]

One of my first house rules was to remove Heavy Armor Proficiency from clerics. I also tweaked a number of domains, and rewrote the turn undead rules..

In the incarnation of d20 I'm writing, clerics won't have access to all spontaneous cure x wounds spells from the start; they'll gain increased access to it as they gain cleric levels. This will prevent people from taking one level of cleric and then enjoying all benefits of the class (except turn undead) from multiclassing into PrCs that grants spellcasting.

I am SO Happy that I don't play in your Campaign. Your SOOO scared of someone minmaxing you take all the choice away from characters. Prebanning and rewriting the rules so they HAMPER classes and remove their abilities. I don't know who screwed you over in the past, but they won (got the last laugh)