Ranged AoO

[Eye Tyrant]

Action Points?

Update: Last night I explained the mistake made from Friday night's game. Surprisingly, my 3 players did not get bent out of shape and accepted the rule with no arguments ( I think they actually realized how this was not a good thing). I am thinking of looking into the action points in UA once I pick that up, to add the "dramatics" that I was trying to get with allowing the ranged AoO...

Anyone got Action Point info per UA? How many and how often to you get action points? How can they be used?

 

[Taloras]

the 3E PrC Order of the Bow Initiate allowed AoOs with a bow within 5 feet i think....but then again, they also allowed for ranged flanking...

 

[Hypersmurf]

the 3E PrC Order of the Bow Initiate allowed AoOs with a bow within 5 feet i think....but then again, they also allowed for ranged flanking...

No, and no

It's the Peerless Archer who could threaten with a bow, at 10 feet, not 5 feet.

-Hyp.

 

[CM]

What if you have improved unarmed strike and you're wielding a bow. Could you still make an AoO with an unarmed strike?

 

[AGGEMAM]

What if you have improved unarmed strike and you're wielding a bow. Could you still make an AoO with an unarmed strike?

No. Not as the rules are but you might wanna build a feat that allowed an AoO with IUS or as Legolas in LotR with an arrow.

Maybe something like this: Combat Readiness [General] Prereq: Combat Reflexes Benefit: When you have taken an action that would normally disallow an AoO (such as casting a full round spell or firing a bow), you may make a single AoO of with a weapon with which you are considered armed (such as a holded charge touch spell, unarmed strike, or an arrow). Special: A Fighter may select Combat Readiness as one of his fighter bonus feats

 

[Black Knight Irios]

Is having an improvised weapon/a charge of a touch spell not enough to be considered armed? -If so, or even if not, a monk needs not his hands free to attack, he can use his whole body, so that might get a little bit out of hand.

 

[Alduk]

What if you have improved unarmed strike and you're wielding a bow. Could you still make an AoO with an unarmed strike?

By the RAW, you can if you are a monk, but not if you just have the Improved Unarmed Strike feat.

From the SRD under Monk:

Unarmed Strike: At 1st level, a monk gains Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. A monk's attacks may be with either fist interchangeably or even from elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may even make unarmed strikes with her hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all her unarmed strikes.

 

[AGGEMAM]

By the RAW, you can if you are a monk

There are no difference in this matter whether you are a monk or just someone with IUS feat, as the unarmed Attack section only refers to that.

I still say you can't if you are using a bow.

 

[Hypersmurf]

There are no difference in this matter whether you are a monk or just someone with IUS feat, as the unarmed Attack section only refers to that.

I don't agree with that...

Let's say we have a new PrC focused around use of the Falchion.

Falchion Throw: At 1st level, the Falchion Thrower gains the Far Shot feat. The Falchion Thrower can treat his falchion as a thrown weapon with a range increment of 15 feet, without incurring the normal penalty for throwing an inappropriate weapon.

There are two separate benefits of the ability: one is the feat, the other is the extra benefits in throwing the weapon. That doesn't mean that anyone with the Far Shot feat can throw their falchion with no penalty; it means that the Falchion Thrower can, and he gets the Far Shot feat.

Likewise, someone with IUS still deals half Str bonus to damage with their off hand... unless they're a monk. The sentences after "gains the Improved Unarmed Strike feat" are monk-specific, not feat-specific.

-Hyp.

 

[AGGEMAM]

I don't agree with that...

Although it's not the first time I see you disagree with the PHB, I've gotta say that this is the first time you flat out contratict it.

EDIT: There are no difference between a monk and someone with the UIS feat in this matter. You're just as skilled martial arts wise (or nearly so) or even better in fact than a monk with the UIS with a dedicated fighter builæd.

This has no relation to the AoO question at all though.