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[ColonelHardisson]

Why did you open that post with "No", but then go on to basically explain that the answer was "Yes"?

Love ya, TB, but I just don't see that he's saying that. He's saying that he wants value for his money. It's not a matter of feeling entitled to a massive discount; it's a matter of having X amount of money to spend and wanting to maximize what one gets for that money. I just didn't get the entitlement vibe from his post.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Double post

 

[Teflon Billy]

Isn't that just plain capitalism? I mean, why is it that consumers wanting to get the best deal are somehow beyond the pale? Why should consumers simply pay whatever vendors want to charge?

I love Necromancer Games, so this isn't a rant about them. It's more a reaction against the notion that somehow people looking for a bargain are being sinful, while sellers should be trusted to charge only what is fair...

Read again Bro

It wasn't "People looking for a bargain are sinful"...it was "do Amercian consumers insist on bargain basement prices 24/7"

What some are saying is a "massive discount" price may just be the price consumers feel is the price they feel comfortable paying, or which they feel is fair. I don't see anything wrong with that. I agree veiled threats are silly, but really, the average consumer sees that a place like Amazon charges a lot less than the local store, and they wonder why. Yeah, I know, and you know, that brick and mortar places have a lot more overhead, but that they also provide places for gamers to meet and play (hopefully). But the average consumer probably isn't making that logical progression. We - all of us - shop around for the best price on just about anything, from groceries to cars to non-game books. But evidently the added value that many are touting as a big plus for the brick and mortar places is simply not there at many shops. If people are saying they just aren't getting that added value at a shop, and find that the discounts at Amazon make shopping there more attractive than an actual store, then maybe store owners need to rethink their business plan.

All of that is eminently wise as well...but again, it's not what was being discussed. What was being discused was people in this thread who were getting hostile because the product was not available at Amazon.

Check out this quote one more time...

But it wasn't available to those people who didn't want to have to go out of their usual buying methods. Some people only buy from Amazon or their FLGS or etc., Apparently Necromancer should be catering to these people, even if it means they lose several thousand dollars in doing so. They owe them that at least.

This guy thinks that he is entitled to, indeed deserves, to purchase stuff at a massive discount (what I'm sure he feels is a "Fair price")...so much so that he admits that Necromancer should sell the thing at a loss of several thousand dollars if that's what it takes to ensure that he doesn't have to "go outside of his usual buying methods"

I was asking if the mindset was common.

Given the repsonses (positive and negative) since then, the answer seems to be yes.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Love ya, TB, but I just don't see that he's saying that. He's saying that he wants value for his money. It's not a matter of feeling entitled to a massive discount; it's a matter of having X amount of money to spend and wanting to maximize what one gets for that money. I just didn't get the entitlement vibe from his post.

Well, when I read it it boiled down to...

"I want your products, and I will do whatever is necessary to ensure I get moe of them for less money than you were planning on"

He does mention that he'll go to his LGS and purchase RARE...but the text proves that he's not excited about it, he's pissed that he is paying full price.

Which, while certainly not an admission, certainly is circumstantially a "yes"

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I was asking if the mindset was common.

Given the repsonses (positive and negative) since then, the answer seems to be yes.

Alright, maybe I'm not quite grokking the point, but the conclusion about the mindset in question being common only applies to posters to this thread, who are naturally a skewed sample. I don't think most people (Americans) feel "entitled" to massive discounts, but they do feel they need to shop around for the best prices. I think most people don't trust that vendors sell their wares at the minimum they need to charge to make a profit. And most vendors don't believe that consumers can't spend any more for the stuff they want. So it ends up simply being the classic tug-of-war tension between producer and consumer.

But I get the feeling I must be way off point.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

Well, when I read it it boiled down to...

"I want your products, and I will do whatever is necessary to ensure I get moe of them for less money than you were planning on"

But I don't see anything really wrong with that. Don't those who make products say "I'm going to charge you absolutely as much as I believe you'll pay, and not a cent less"?

He does mention that he'll go to his LGS and purchase RARE...but the text proves that he's not excited about it, he's pissed that he is paying full price.

Which, while certainly not an admission, certainly is circumstantially a "yes"

I have to say that my third reading of the post is just not picking up outright hostility. So perhaps my perception is off.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I get the feeling I'm not quite in tune here...

 

[Nightfall]

Try a tuning fork.

Tree,

Well I was just giving a general example.

Orcus and Tsoggy,

You guys rule.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

But I don't see anything really wrong with that. Don't those who make products say "I'm going to charge you absolutely as much as I believe you'll pay, and not a cent less"?

That's the way I see it. Its in my best interest to get the product as cheap as possible and its in thier best interest to charge as much as possible. Somewhere in the middle we meet or there is no sale. Capitalism baby!

 

[Nightfall]

Uhm yeah but the fact is if they don't make a profit, why bother selling to people at all?