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Rate Batman Begins

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ShadeMoon64 said:
... A great all around cast though I could have done without the Katie Holmes character. I understand the function she played in the story but I felt she was to "light weight" an actress for the part.

Everyone else I've talked to about the movie has felt the same way, and apparently Warner Bros does as well.
 

ShadeMoon64 said:
A great all around cast though I could have done without the Katie Holmes character. I understand the function she played in the story but I felt she was to "light weight" an actress for the part.
But what does that mean? Lots of folks complain about Katie Holmes but nobody is really explaining what is so bad about her or her role. I thought she worked fine.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
But what does that mean? Lots of folks complain about Katie Holmes but nobody is really explaining what is so bad about her or her role. I thought she worked fine.

I have to agree with Joshua, here. I didn't have any problems with Katie Holmes in the movie. She wasn't a standout, but the part was only a supporting role and a much smaller part than that of Alfred or Gordon, for example. It was on the same par as say Flass for screen time. Oscar-worthy, no...but I thought she did fine.
 

I gauge this movie as "firmly mediocre". For me, it's either a weak 7 or a strong 6, so I voted "6".

I thought the fight scenes were dreadful (suffering from the cheap shaky camera and "death of a thousand cuts" choppyness), the Bat-SUV chase was too long for me, and the Katie Holmes character was pure dead weight (boring, lack of any personality, and rather useless to the movie, in my view).

On the other hand, the origin story was good, and he's the best Batman by far. Morgan Freeman was great but woefully underused, and for me, Sergeant/Lt. Gordon was the best thing in that movie by far.
 
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arnwyn said:
(boring, lack of any personality, and rather useless to the movie, in my view).
See, at least that's meaningful criticism rather than the, "Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise piss me off, so her part in the movie sucked," which seems to characterize most of the rest of the complaints about her.
 

The fight scenes never bothered me; it's a style, so who cares. Katie Holmes was probably the worst acting in the movie, but that's not saying much, because *everyone* was so damn good. She was solid enough, though I think her younger counterpart did a better job acting. Anyway, she had her moments.

The real thing that was awesome was the music. Sure, people say Hans Zimmer's stuff is all the same or Howard's stuff is all the same, but who cares. During the movie, I didn't know who composed or performed the stuff, and I was like holy sh*t that's good music. I'm listening to the soundtrack right now.
 

Katie Holmes was just utterly unconvincing as a DA with seven years' experience in the department. If she were an intern, I coulda believed it, but there's no way she projects the weariness, cynicism, or inner strength of spending seven years prosecuting the crimes of a corrupt city.

A better actress could have handled the subtlety required by the character. She just didn't.

At the same time, she was virtually the only woman in the movie with more than one line. I'd appreciate a sequel that had some significant female characters in it.

Daniel
 

Joshua Dyal said:
But what does that mean? Lots of folks complain about Katie Holmes but nobody is really explaining what is so bad about her or her role. I thought she worked fine.
You know... I thought her character was good and necessary to the story, the material she was given was good, but I just did not care for her acting. It felt stilted and forced at times. It was even more distracting considering everyone else in the movie.
 


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