Rate Fantastic Four *SPOILERS*

[Kai Lord]

Didn't say it was "G" -

You got that right! I'm not saying it should have been G, just that the current film was way too far from a G. There's a pretty big range under PG-13. From cartoony comic violence (X-Men, Spider-Man) to full-on nudity (Titanic). They've never swung toward the "Titanic" side when it comes to family friendly comic adaptations, and until now there's never been any precedent to expect them to. I just think its a sad coarsening of the source material. But from what I understand most mainstream comics are largely T & A fests now anyway so I probably shouldn't be surprised when it turns up in the movie.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years I need to check to make sure the PG-13 Spidey 3 isn't rated as such because Mary Jane wants Peter to draw her naked body. Okay I probably would be, but not as much as I would have been before seeing FF.

And to Joshua Dyal, as far as anyone but me expecting an FF movie to be family-friendly, just read the other posts of this thread.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Just got back...I'll give it an 8.

Fun, fun movie. Even though I'm a huge fan of comics Doom, he worked for me in the movie. In fact...everything did. Its just not a 10 because I didn't have the same feeling of amazement as I did with things like Batman Begins and Revenge of the Sith.

Honestly, I feel sorry for some of you guys that seem to hate or at least dislike most of the movies that come out, especially since most of the time its the exact same people with every movie. Sometimes, I wonder if some of you should just save your money and wait for a rental.

 

[Abraxas]

I give it an 8. (Jessica Alba and Superpowered Doom are what kept it from getting a higher rating from me).
The FF has always been my favorite comic hero group and it was great to see them in a movie. It was also refreshing to have superheroes that are treated like heroes.

 

[Agamon]

I gave it a 7. I liked it, it was cheesy, but in a good way. But it didn't have much of a story. And there wasn't an obvious 'saving of the city/country/world', the final fight seemed anti-climatic, like it wa s agrudge fight, not very FF, IMO. Also when they were first exposed to the public, they were cheering them, especially the Thing, as heroes, when he was the initial cause of the problem. I didn't mind Jessica Alba as Sue, but the writer did his best to get her as naked as possible as often as possible. That was sillly, and not Alba's fault.

On the other hand, if it were up to me, I would be trying to get Jessica naked as often as possible, too...

I did like it though, for the same reason I liked the Spider-Man and X-Men movies: they captured the characters well (well, excpet Doom, but then they usually mess with the villian big time).

Decent movie, good super-hero movie, better than I expected from the crap trailers.

 

[Desdichado]

And to Joshua Dyal, as far as anyone but me expecting an FF movie to be family-friendly, just read the other posts of this thread.

I've read the entire thread. That's not helpful--I still see your expectation as unwarranted, out of the blue, and unreasonable.

 

[Kai Lord]

I've read the entire thread. That's not helpful--I still see your expectation as unwarranted, out of the blue, and unreasonable.

As I said earlier based on the current subject matter in comics themselves--I'm not surprised that you do. What's amusing to think about is what the reaction would have been if Sin City had been G or PG-13 rated. Many people have no problem with coarsening family material, but tone something down....

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

As I said earlier based on the current subject matter in comics themselves--I'm not surprised that you do. What's amusing to think about is what the reaction would have been if Sin City had been G or PG-13 rated. Many people have no problem with coarsening family material, but tone something down....

I'm sorry, man, but it wasn't nearly as bad as you're making it. Especially now that I've seen the movie, you're making it out to be much, much worse than it really was.

To be truthful, I've seen PG movies these days that have worse stuff in them than that.

 

[Desdichado]

As I said earlier based on the current subject matter in comics themselves--I'm not surprised that you do. What's amusing to think about is what the reaction would have been if Sin City had been G or PG-13 rated. Many people have no problem with coarsening family material, but tone something down....

I still don't know where you're going. If anything, you're getting further away from putting out an explanation that makes any sense.

FF is not family material--I've read a fair amount of the older issues, and it's pretty much on par with all the other Marvel series of its time. And all of those were made into PG-13 movies.

Granted, I don't know much about where FF is as a comic today or even over the last decade or so, but I also don't see how that's even relevant, to be honest with you. If thats the basis of your expectation, I still think it's unwarranted and unreasonable. None of the other "recent" Marvel movies have been all that closely grounded in the current state of the magazine on which they were based either.

 

[Kai Lord]

I still don't know where you're going.

I know. That's obvious. And you still obviously think that all PG-13 movies have the exact same level of coarse and raunchy material. They don't. That'd be the same as expecting material from Not Another Teen Movie to end up in Gladiator. I mean, they're both rated R, right? I don't care if Spider-Man and X-Men were also PG-13 movies based off of Marvel comics. They still didn't contain crap you'd expect in a Beer commercial or Hooters billboard.

And I read about 20-30 issues of FF from back in the early 80's that didn't have contrived producer inserted scenarios with Invisible Girl stripping or all the junk surrounding the Human Torch character. But apparently you read comics that did. I'll allow for that, goodness knows there's over 500 issues to choose from. So you got the movie you wanted or felt was appropriate and can be glad. I didn't.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

And I read about 20-30 issues of FF from back in the early 80's that didn't have contrived producer inserted scenarios with Invisible Girl stripping or all the junk surrounding the Human Torch character.

Actually, Invisible Woman stipping off her clothes to be invisible makes perfect sense if you can't turn them in visible, too, and need to get somewhere. It wasn't contrived at all(though, definitely there were other motives, but at least it had reasoning behind it).

As for Johnny Storm...oh, come on. He's a hot head and a ladies man from the start. He was spot on perfect, more so than most characters in the recent wave of comic book movies.

So you got the movie you wanted or felt was appropriate and can be glad. I didn't.

And, truthfully, that's all you really have to say. Otherwise, we'll continue this pointless little thing and continue to be confused by the other's opinions on things. If you didn't like it, there's not much we can do but feel sorry that you wasted your money on it.