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Has it? That's good news. I'd hope that this shows the same kind of improvement from freshman to sophomore effort that Spiderman, or X-men (or heck, even Superman) did.Krug said:
Rate Fantastic Four *SPOILERS*
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Mustrum_Ridcully
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Just one of the moments I´m reminded that Americans are strange and I don´t have to understand them. The obsession with sexuality and any kind of even just implied nudity is something I will never entirely understand.Kai Lord said:
What do you think will cause more fear in a kid: Seeing a man with metal growing out of his skin and taking on a horrible metallic mask, or Jessica Alba wearing only underwear? What would probably appear in his nightmares (in his, not in that of you as a possible parent)?
What is more morally questionable: Killing a man by heating him up several thousand Kelvin and then rapidly cooling him, or a woman wearing a sexy uniform?
I guess only an American can chose the latter option.
But I won´t worry - we all have our issues... This is a harmless one... (Even though it´s stupid enough that it sometimes simply enrages me ...)
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Please don´t feel offended, Kai (or anyone else), I just need some venting. I am not doing this kind of thing often enough.
PPS:
Regarding the movie: I gave it a 6. It was not as good as Spiderman, X-Men or Batman, and I also prefer The Punisher over Fantastic Four. (Buit I liked the latter a lot more than it might be worth
). I think the movie lacked a bit of coheson and motivation - I wasn´t impressed by the character of Dr.Doom as shown in the movie. He could have been more evil...I don´t know if it´s good that I have no clue about the comics...
In the end, I enjoyed the movie, but it didn´t inspire more...
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Mustrum_Ridcully said:
Sex is regarded as sinful by a large chunk of american society. Violence however is merely bad. Since violence isn't sinful like sex is, it doesn't threaten their beliefs in the same way that sex does. In other words, violence is bad, but sex is not only bad, but will send you to hell as well. Plus it's viewed as being particularly corrupting to children and teenagers. After all anyone can have sex and everyone has sexual urges, but few people have the guns and ammo to go on a killing spree. Since it is such a part of american culture and has been pretty much since the begining (Thank you Puritains!), it affects even those of use who tend to have a broader view of things.
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Mustrum_Ridcully said:
Why would anyone be offended by your labeling only Americans as incapable of making the moral distinctions between violence and nudity necessary to protect our children because we're all so hung up on harmless yet stupid issues framed within the context of an intellectually dishonest false dilemma?
What's next? Cluttering things up with prejudicial caricatures of religious beliefs and disparaging, ignorant comments about Puritans?
Lord Pendragon
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Yes, I find that I don't insult Germans often enough myself.Mustrum_Ridcully said:
Mustrum_Ridcully
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Maybe i was ... "overgeneralizing". But I really don´t understand those Americans with those views. And I am certain there are non-Americans with similar views. But thanks to the kind of boards I travel (and the media regarding America) I simply associate this view as typically American. And it sometimes bothers me reading these views.
Sometimes you should maybe do it, if you feel like it.Lord Pendragon said:
Though was I really insulting? I usually associate insults with swear-words. Describing someone as strange doesn´t fit to that. Strange is not bad (usually it´s just interesting and remarkably.
On a second thought, I described it as an issue, that probably counts as insult.
Even if that´s what I feel on this matter, I am sorry if I hurt your feelings .
What I wanted to achieve (besides the personal venting) is some more introspection on the side of the posters, thinking about their views (and changing it, preferably
). But I guess that won´t really work, because changing opinions on Message Boards is usually impossible (only forming works).
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Speaking of strange...Mustrum_Ridcully said:
I very rarely swear. If I lived up to what I'd like to be, I never would. I find that I can still insult with the best of them. In fact, the best insults have no swearing in them whatsoever.
Not that I aspire to be an insult-artist by any means. But I see no correllation at all between swearing and insulting.
Captain Tagon
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arnwyn said:
The problem is there are actual solid reasons for this viewpoint.
For many Americans sex and violence are both neutral as regards morality in and of themselves. It is conditions and motivations that define them as good or evil.
Accordingly, violence can be allowed, and possibly even the right thing to do in many circumstances including the defense of one's family or country or own self. Thus violence is much easier to rationlize.
Sex however is different. For many with the more black and white moral views, there is nothing intrinsicly wrong with sex, but sex should be kept within certain contexts. And while yes, you could portray sexual acts between married people on screen, that would still defeat the purpose of keeping sex within the context of marriage.
So it isn't a view that violence = okay and sex = bad. Both are equally amoral, just defined by their contexts.
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