Rate Joker

[Istbor]

Angry white man rage fantasies peaked in the 80's when filmmakers still remembered we were supposed to be as critical of the subject (if not moreso) as the external conditions for their breakdown (people often refer to Taxi Driver here because Scorsese, which, fair, but for my money First Blood is the very best foray into the genre). I mean, even as pointless an exercise as, say, Falling Down had the nerve to bother to say something about anything, something Joker kept threatening to do but kept refusing to actually commit to.

I am not certain, but I feel as though you besmirched Falling Down.

I caution such actions in the future...

 

[Gradine]

I am not certain, but I feel as though you besmirched Falling Down.

I caution such actions in the future...

Falling Down is a perfectly competently made, utterly pointless waste of film

 

[Istbor]

Falling Down is a perfectly competently made, utterly pointless waste of film

I see now that you just don't like things.

 

[Gradine]

I see now that you just don't like things.

On the contrary, I like many things. Some of those things are even utterly pointless too!

 

[ccs]

Overall Good, I guess. If not for the acting it'd be average.
It's one of those movies you see once for the great performance(s) & never watch again. And it fails to match the things it's influenced by/being compared to.

 

[Salthorae]

I thought Joker was a great film on so many levels. I can't disagree more with the sentiment that it hand nothing to say.

I want to see it in the theater again if I get the time to do so.

Phoenix's acting was an amazing performance. I didn't think that there was be another performance to rival Ledger's so soon, but man did this one. They are such different portrayals of the character, but both so, well, done.

 

[Ryujin]

This guy's (spoiler heavy) video about his theories on "The Joker" matches some of my thoughts on it, but he goes even deeper.

 

[RangerWickett]

I thought it was a competently filmed movie with good acting and great aesthetics, and showing a character with mental illness trying to navigate the world was compelling, but the writing only dipped its toes into the most interesting questions it touched on. The main character has some mild smatterings of a philosophy that guides his actions, but he isn't really challenged on his views. The conflict is mostly physical, though the character's change is ideological, and it doesn't feel like it amounts to much.

 

[Ryujin]

I thought it was a competently filmed movie with good acting and great aesthetics, but writing that only dipped its toes into the most interesting questions it touched on. The main character has some mild smatterings of a philosophy that guides his actions, but he isn't really challenged on his views. The conflict is mostly physical, though the character's change is ideological, and it doesn't feel like it amounts to much.

The video link that I posted deals with possible reasons for the 'lack of challenge', though not explicitly.

 

[Aeson]

I think my girlfriend liked it more than I did, and I enjoyed it a lot. She has a thing for creepy killer clowns. I thought it was well done. I expected a big comic supervillain ending, and wanted Batman to come in to save the day. That would have been hard with Bruce Wayne being a kid.