If you'd like to know more, they put out a 4-issue comic book series, titled "Star Trek: Countdown", which I am told gives you the full skinny on what happened. I have not read it myself yet.
Rate the new Star Trek Film
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If you'd like to know more, they put out a 4-issue comic book series, titled "Star Trek: Countdown", which I am told gives you the full skinny on what happened. I have not read it myself yet.
EricNoah
Adventurer
I'm giving it 3 stars - I enjoyed it, I'm glad I saw it, it wasn't the life-changing event I read about in so many reviews. The casting and dialogue (banter in particular) were quite good, the plot was a little sloppy, some of the silliest stuff was a smidge too silly, and the heartwrenching moments weren't heartwrenching enough for my taste. I do like that the plot essentially takes care of the "Smallville Problem" (i.e. we don't have to worry about each "episode" moving us closer and closer to a pre-determined outcome), and I do want to see where this goes in the next movie. I don't have a great urge to see it again immediately but probably will see it again at some point before it leaves theaters.
My favorite things: Pine's Kirk really was quite good; Urban's McCoy was quite good; Pegg's Scotty was great; Chekhov was a lot less annoying than I'd been led to believe.
Disappointments: I didn't feel the "grandeur" of Nimoy's performance - I felt like I could barely see/hear the Spock I thought I knew. Quinto's Spock was fine but not superior; just a notch more complexity, or a shade more reserve might have helped. The "Kirk with giant hands" thing was just too silly. Scotty's little Ewok/muppet/whatever friend ... no. And I did not feel that people were nearly devastated enough when (spoilers) [sblock]Vulcan goes bye-bye[/sblock].
My favorite things: Pine's Kirk really was quite good; Urban's McCoy was quite good; Pegg's Scotty was great; Chekhov was a lot less annoying than I'd been led to believe.
Disappointments: I didn't feel the "grandeur" of Nimoy's performance - I felt like I could barely see/hear the Spock I thought I knew. Quinto's Spock was fine but not superior; just a notch more complexity, or a shade more reserve might have helped. The "Kirk with giant hands" thing was just too silly. Scotty's little Ewok/muppet/whatever friend ... no. And I did not feel that people were nearly devastated enough when (spoilers) [sblock]Vulcan goes bye-bye[/sblock].
RangerWickett
Legend
This was the most fun I've had at a movie in years. I'm interested to see how non-fans react, but for me, as a fan who had come to lament how mediocre Star Trek had become, this movie with all its fan service (we should make a list) mixed in with a rather good action story, it was perfect.
Krug
Newshound
Am not a fan but thought it was decent (Gave it 3 stars), though trying a little too hard to amaze and be grandiose. One thing I did hate; the constant use of lens flare. Thankfully there was less of it in the latter half.
Quinto was quite good, Pine so-so. The plot didn't quite grab me, but just took in the visual feast onscreen.
And aren't there enough middle-aged women around without asking
to play Spock's mom?
[sblock]Also thought a single micro-ship carrying world destroying material was like driving a car around carrying nuclear warheads. And the monster sequence was quite superflous.
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Quinto was quite good, Pine so-so. The plot didn't quite grab me, but just took in the visual feast onscreen.
And aren't there enough middle-aged women around without asking
Winona Ryder
[sblock]Also thought a single micro-ship carrying world destroying material was like driving a car around carrying nuclear warheads. And the monster sequence was quite superflous.
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Remathilis
Legend
It had everything I'd want out of an Old Series homage.
* Shirtless Kirk.
* All the classic lines (I'm a doctor, not a __, I'm givin it all she's got keptin!)
* Green skinned alien makeout session
* Both themes playing at the credits (TV and movie)
* a Redshirt buying it in the opening of a land mission ;-)
Was surprised by:
* Captain Pike. Seriously, didn't see the pilot homage coming.
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* Shirtless Kirk.
* All the classic lines (I'm a doctor, not a __, I'm givin it all she's got keptin!)
* Green skinned alien makeout session
* Both themes playing at the credits (TV and movie)
* a Redshirt buying it in the opening of a land mission ;-)
Was surprised by:
* Captain Pike. Seriously, didn't see the pilot homage coming.
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Uhura/Spock. Take that Kirk/Spock shippers!
EricNoah
Adventurer
My understanding is there was a scene of Spock's birth that likely would have shown some deeper interaction between his parents, but it was cut.
I wonder if there will be an "extended" version DVD ... I feel like I heard there were other things like this that were trimmed, like an explanation for where Nero was for 25 years...
Good, fun, movie, but only three stars because I've read too much MilSF lately, so was a little annoyed by things like...
- Kirk appointed first officer without anyone explicitly saying the Enterprise was, due to the emergency, crewed by Pike, Spock, a bunch of cadets and ensigns, and enlisted personnel/non-line officers.
- After everything was done, Kirk kept command of the Enterprise, instead of being sent off somewhere as Lt. Kirk.
- Kirk appointed first officer without anyone explicitly saying the Enterprise was, due to the emergency, crewed by Pike, Spock, a bunch of cadets and ensigns, and enlisted personnel/non-line officers.
- After everything was done, Kirk kept command of the Enterprise, instead of being sent off somewhere as Lt. Kirk.
WhatGravitas
Explorer
That was really surprising. I liked how the film really showed that it was "the road not taken", yet some things seemed to be destined to happen. And a time-travel story without reset button!
I liked Urban's McCoy, though I wish we had seen more of him. Quinto's Spock was great - he was a different Spock, but still Spock. Pegg's Scotty was fun! The Kirk... well-played, but I'm still not sure whether Pine is the ideal actor, but still good. Chekov was funny, but sadly Sulu was really underused.
I liked the re-design of the ship, it looked believeable without looking all grim-and-dark (like the realistic look of BSG), but rather Star Trek-like. Love that new warp effect and sound. The villain's ship was... very meh, however (and gave me bad Nemesis flashbacks) - and ditto for the villain who was rather flat and not charismatic enough at all - definitely no Khan or Borg Queen - more like Shinzon 2.0.
Still 3.5/4.0 - one of the best Star Trek films ever - and the cast has the potential to trump that performance if they do a sequel. As a film in general: Good, but not awesome - no Iron Man (which, with it's rather light story, is a better comparison than Dark Knight).
Cheers, LT.
I gave it a 7. I like most of the reinvisioned characters...with the notable exception of Kirk.
Kirk was too much a cocky A-hole.....Shattner Kirk had some smugness...but not to that level. New Kirk...felt too frat boy....did not have enough gravitas.
The Villians motivation was a bit ridiculous....so if Spock and by extension the Federation had not tried to help save your planet......your planet would still be destroyed....so therefore by attempting to help him, and falling short, he will punish you.....wah (?).....
My other quibble is the best thing about Roddenberry's vision is the utopian dream of exploration and championship of the more enobling attributes of humanity. The movie had very little of that (Pikes speach in the bar being the only bit). Star Trek w/o the aspiration to goodness is not Star Trek.
All in All, pretty good, and I will definetely go see a Second Movie in the Alt Verse.
Kirk was too much a cocky A-hole.....Shattner Kirk had some smugness...but not to that level. New Kirk...felt too frat boy....did not have enough gravitas.
The Villians motivation was a bit ridiculous....so if Spock and by extension the Federation had not tried to help save your planet......your planet would still be destroyed....so therefore by attempting to help him, and falling short, he will punish you.....wah (?).....
My other quibble is the best thing about Roddenberry's vision is the utopian dream of exploration and championship of the more enobling attributes of humanity. The movie had very little of that (Pikes speach in the bar being the only bit). Star Trek w/o the aspiration to goodness is not Star Trek.
All in All, pretty good, and I will definetely go see a Second Movie in the Alt Verse.
I think too many people are buying into the hype. They get so excited from Rotten Tomato reviews, trailers, watch it and even though deep inside they know it pretty much sucked, they don't want to admit they spent $10+ for the movie and really end up believing it was a great movie.
My opinion, it was a fun movie. It was entertaining. However, there was no story, no character development. It was just mindless blowing stuff up, fighting, blowing up some more stuff, etc.
The movie just moved along way too fast at too fast a pace and the movie wasn't really sci-fi...the movie would fit better into the comedy genre.
I'll admit though that I've never seen TOS in depth, so I don't know if TOS bends more towards action adventure like ENTERPRISE or more towards seriousness like TNG.
My opinion, it was a fun movie. It was entertaining. However, there was no story, no character development. It was just mindless blowing stuff up, fighting, blowing up some more stuff, etc.
The movie just moved along way too fast at too fast a pace and the movie wasn't really sci-fi...the movie would fit better into the comedy genre.
I'll admit though that I've never seen TOS in depth, so I don't know if TOS bends more towards action adventure like ENTERPRISE or more towards seriousness like TNG.
