Rate the new Star Trek Film

[Mallus]

I'll admit though that I've never seen TOS in depth...

I grew up on TOS. I just saw the new film for the second time. I loved it. Again. It reminded me of what I've loved about the original since childhood.

(though there was a lot more shake-y cam than I recall from the sneak preview)

Suggesting that people who liked something you didn't 'fell for the hype' is tantamount to calling them impressionable, at best, and stupid at worst. Adding that they're committing acts of self-deception over a measly $10 means you're calling them cheap as well.

This is kinda rude. Also, it makes you look dumb.

If you'd like to discuss the relative merits (or demerits) of the film vs. the various franchises, or what makes something 'scifi', great.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

My opinion, it was a fun movie. It was entertaining. However, there was no story, no character development. It was just mindless blowing stuff up, fighting, blowing up some more stuff, etc.

The movie just moved along way too fast at too fast a pace and the movie wasn't really sci-fi...

The above quote, to me, is an example of real life imitating The Onion.

 

[Wolf72]

enjoyed it immensely ...

loved how they merged everything and changed everything.

Loved even more how I read almost NO real spoilers from anyone here (to be fair, been lurking not posting lately)

heard that main cast has signed up for at least 3 more films, very cool.

one thing I did not like ... new chekov (well he's fine, just thought original Walter Koneg sp ... well I just like him better)

 

[wingsandsword]

I'll admit though that I've never seen TOS in depth, so I don't know if TOS bends more towards action adventure like ENTERPRISE or more towards seriousness like TNG.

Trek has always been in a balancing act between action and drama.

The very first pilot of TOS, The Cage (the one with the original Capt. Pike) was pretty cerebral and "talky" with very little action. The network hated it, so they recast everything and made TOS as a much more action-packed show. There were still occasional plotlines or scenes that were very serious and dramatic, but TOS was definitely closer in tone to Enterprise than TNG. You can go definitely too far over on the serious drama in Trek and undercut the action, look at Star Trek: the Motion Picture.

Not to say that TNG is bad (or that Enterprise was good, except for the 4th season), but in the huge realm of existing Trek productions (727 hours of live action TV, 10 movies before this one, the deuterocanonical animated series. . .) this movie was much closer to TOS in tone than anything else. To me it did seem like what they could have done if they'd given Gene Roddenberry and company modern filmmaking technology an budgets back in the late '60's.

 

[wingsandsword]

I wonder if there will be an "extended" version DVD ... I feel like I heard there were other things like this that were trimmed, like an explanation for where Nero was for 25 years...

Yeah, as I understand it they had filmed a subplot that had Nero and crew captured by Klingons and held for over two decades before they escaped and retook their ship. However, all the test screenings involving it flopped and apparently it confused the audience or something.

 

[freyar]

Don't even know how to rate this movie. On the one hand, I thought the character portrayals were pretty close, especially Urban as McCoy IMO. And there were a lot of nice tips of the hat to pieces of Trek lore. On the other hand, I thought that the whole plot and

Spoiler

continuity rewrite

was incredibly disrespectful of not just the original series but all the other Trek set after this in time.

Not to mention the various silliness such as the ship full of cadets, etc, etc.

Off to read the other thread...

 

[Dire Bare]

And aren't there enough middle-aged women around without asking

Spoiler

Winona Ryder

to play Spock's mom?

Spock's mom was hot!!! If I were Sarek, I'd go for Winona Ryder in a heartbeat!

 

[Dire Bare]

I'm interested to see how non-fans react, but for me, as a fan who had come to lament how mediocre Star Trek had become, this movie with all its fan service (we should make a list) mixed in with a rather good action story, it was perfect.

I saw it tonight, and the audience clapped and cheered at multiple points in the film. Is there really such a thing as Star Trek "non-fans"? Everybody loves Star Trek!!!

 

[Dire Bare]

I think too many people are buying into the hype. They get so excited from Rotten Tomato reviews, trailers, watch it and even though deep inside they know it pretty much sucked, they don't want to admit they spent $10+ for the movie and really end up believing it was a great movie.

Thanks for opening my eyes! Here I thought that I'd genuinely enjoyed the movie, that it was the best Trek film since Wrath of Khan. But here it's just that I bought into the hype and was tricked into liking a crappy movie! I hate when that happens!

 

[Dire Bare]

Not to mention the various silliness such as the ship full of cadets, etc, etc.

Yeah, a ship crewed mostly by cadets, how lame! Wait, are we talking about the new Star Trek movie or Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn?