Rate the new Star Trek Film

[stonegod]

I've never seen any of Simon Pegg's movies, but I'm going to seek them out. He was genuinely funny, and kicked the movie to another level when his Scotty arrived. (One of the few things I disliked about the movie was his alien sidekick, who seemed to step right out of Star Wars and onto this movie. But there wasn't much of that character, so no big deal.)

Just a quick OOC: Shaun of the Dead (which he co-write and starred) is one of my favorite movies ever, and a great zombie flick and a comedy. Get it now!

I enjoyed ST much, giving it 3 to 3.5.

 

[fanboy2000]

Actually, that is a huge continuity nod showing they have really done their research. The idea that McCoy joined Starfleet after a bad divorce was originally though up during the original production run in the '60's.

That's awesome. McCoy was defiantly one of my favorite characters. I can only hope to grow-up to be half the curmudgeon he was.

I think "Enlistment" means joining Starfleet in any capacity, and Kirk was immediately put in for Officer training because of Capt. Pike.

Makes the most sense.

We have already seen enlisted crewmembers in Enterprise (which since it took place before this, are not affected at all by the timeline shift), and there were some explicit mentions of A Starfleet Academy Enlisted Training program in the TNG episode "The Drumhead" when a guest star held the rank of Crewman 1st Class.

I remember that episode. IIRC, Undiscovered Country had enlisted people as well. (Also called crewmen, they had tan tops on their uniforms.) The lack of enlisted members tweaks me a little because I was enlisted and I feel the need to stand-up for my fellow enlistees. Star Trek has always focused on the officers though, so I was expecting it. I mean, if the movie didn't focus on the officers, it wouldn't be very, well, Star Trek.

Not unprecedented in Trek canon.

Nope. Real life US Navy advancement is fast anyways. I don't think anyone comes out an O-3, but it doesn't take long to get there.

Well, they were the adversary in the Kobayashi Maru test, just like they were in Kahn.

Simulated Klingons don't count.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I loved it, while not a 10 in my book at least an 8.5. I was surprised by just how much I enjoyed the casting, Bones really did shine.

 

[Pbartender]

I remember that episode. IIRC, Undiscovered Country had enlisted people as well. (Also called crewmen, they had tan tops on their uniforms.) The lack of enlisted members tweaks me a little because I was enlisted and I feel the need to stand-up for my fellow enlistees. Star Trek has always focused on the officers though, so I was expecting it. I mean, if the movie didn't focus on the officers, it wouldn't be very, well, Star Trek.

Pretty much, every one you see walking around in he background is enlisted. Like you said, the show focuses on the command crew officers, show enlisted crewmen are rarely featured.

However, there are details of enlisted ranks. Here's a list of Stearfleet Crewmen and a list of Starfleet enlisted personnel who have shown up in the series and movies.

Don't forget... Miles O'Brien was perhaps the most conspicuous enlisted crewman; he was a Chief Petty Officer.

Also, FYI: The Memory Alpha website mentions that Starfleet Academy has training programs not only for officers, but also for NCOs and crewmen.

 

[drothgery]

Don't forget... Miles O'Brien was perhaps the most conspicuous enlisted crewman; he was a Chief Petty Officer.

... also the most conspicuous source of officer/enlisted continuity errors. He was always enlisted on DS9, but in TNG they referred to him as an Lt. a few times.

 

[Rykion]

Best reboot ever. Gave it 3 and 1/2 stars.

 

[Victim]

7/10.

 

[shilsen]

2 stars (out of 4). It was just an average entertainer for me, with much of its quality not coming from the movie itself but from the way it referenced what we already know of Star Trek.

 

[Arnwyn]

The actors were excellent. I bought Spock, Kirk was entertaining, most of the other roles were well-done. I wish there had been more McCoy; I didn't really feel the Kirk-Spock-McCoy 'triangle' which so defined the original. Checkov seemed more like a parody and the silliness was a bit of a distraction.

I didn't quite understand the machinations that brought Leonard Nimoy into the plot, but the general idea of time travel and its consequences is hardly new to Star Trek and I could at least buy that he was there and accept his role, which he handled with an appropriate blend of eloquence and humor.

The villain never really registered, and some of the action was a bit silly and overdone. The effects I didn't much notice, which is a good thing (in the same sense that in a sporting contest, if you don't notice the officiating, that's good). It also seems like they tried to cram a lot in and I suspect quite a bit was left on the cutting room floor. It was not as cerebral as one might hope, and you miss not having at least one ethical debate in a Trek movie. The score was disappointingly pedestrian. Not that it needed to be a copy of the original, but I expected grander, more operatic music (the music for some of the trailers actually worked better).

Those weaknesses aside, I found it to have walked the line between reverence and originality. The worlds were entirely believable, the characters understandable, and I was entertained. I could certainly imagine a great movie series coming out of this and I think almost anyone who sees it can find something to like.

Uh... wow. You just covered almost exactly how I felt about the movie. Good stuff!

I voted 3.5 stars, but that's probably too high. 3 stars is more like it.

 

[Richards]

Was anybody else bothered by the new transporter beam effects? I greatly preferred the original effects, and those of the follow-on series, over the way they look in this film. Besides seeming like a change merely for the sake of change, they just looked "wrong" to me.

Johnathan