D&D 5E (2024) RD&D MM will have nearly 500 Monsters, and new NPCs.

[GMforPowergamers]

Because there is no way to calculate CR when adding magic items to base monster.

If you don't want to use the monster's items as treasure, don't use the monster.

If you don't have monsters with items, you can't have many warrior monsters that challenge PCs over ~level 8 because:

1. they don't deal enough damage
2. they don't have enough toughness
3. they don't have decent ranged, AOE, and melee attacks
4. they don't have additional movement types
5. they don't have resistances and immunities

BTW in MMOTM, almost all the humaniod monsters above CR 5 have magic items. The duergar, giths, and and such.

to this I will again tell my craftsman shortsword story (it's from 3.5 but it holds true)

SO I have a friend who had a notebook of NPC stats and modified monster stats and the like. He used them every campaign he ran... flavor was changed but the stats all stayed the same and one of the regular enemies was a rogue with a +1 short sword. IN any given campaign we had to run into this stat block 20-30 times... BUT this one campaign it was way more...

we had so many I can't even remember the exact number of +1 studded leather and +1 shortswords... we sold some we gave them away we used some... but we joked for years (and still do) that his world must have a sears run by artificers that just make Craftsman +1 Short Swords and give out life time warranties on them...

 

[dave2008]

Lord Dungeon Master, the common folk outnumber you & the players in your campaign but contain many groups with GMs who do.

Not sure what you are suggesting. The very next sentence after your bold edit is:

"I don't really have enough information if it is something a majority of DMs/groups need so I can only answer it on a personal level."

I can only answer based on my exerience/need as I don't have any other information to go on, and I assume neither do you.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

You are missing what I mean fundamentally.

I am not saying to give every monster magic items.

I'm saying to add the CR 15 Orc Champion of Grummsh to the MM. And the Orc Champion of Grummsh will have a magic spear that he can throw and return to him so he have a good range and and a magic talisman that summons a black pegasus to fly. This way a level 15 part cannot just snipe him from the air.... because they are level 15 can can cast of Fly in 4 people effortlessly.




Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse

You can make his weapon return to him with a trait, and just give him a black Pegasus. No need for magic items, though this Orc champion is impressive enough that I would probably give them magic equipment as a DM.

 

[Minigiant]

You can make his weapon return to him with a trait, and just give him a black Pegasus. No need for magic items, though this Orc champion is impressive enough that I would probably give them magic equipment as a DM.

It took 10 YEARS for 5e to get weapon mastery.

You dang well know if an orc can throw an spear or axe and have it return without it being a spell or magic item, a good 25-30% of the D&D community would flip their lids.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Revised D&D. WotC is still trying to downplay the edition change to 5e "Revised".

I might roll my eyes a bit, but they can do what they like with their game, so "5e Revised" it is!

But have they called it "Revised D&D"? Or is this just another fan attempt?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Well, if we can have 3.5 as 3rd edition revised, we can have a 5th edition revised.

At least this is WotC moving closer to a proper version number for this edition rather than call it "one D&D"

They were NEVER going to call it OneD&D. I still don't quite understand why a lot of people found that unclear.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

But have they called it "Revised D&D"? Or is this just another fan attempt?

Not directly, no. You have a point. They did say that it was "still 5e" and so on and used the word "revised" somewhere.

I wasn't necessarily suggesting that I would go around calling it "5e Revised" (though reading the post you quoted it looked like I meant that).

I still think that it's most likely branding will be "50th Anniversary D&D" with some text somewhere that says "Compatible with the Fifth Edition of the Dungeons & Dragons Game!" (or something to that effect).

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Not directly, no. You have a point. They did say that it was "still 5e" and so on and used the word "revised" somewhere.

I wasn't necessarily suggesting that I would go around calling it "5e Revised" (though reading the post you quoted it looked like I meant that).

I still think that it's most likely branding will be "50th Anniversary D&D" with some text somewhere that says "Compatible with the Fifth Edition of the Dungeons & Dragons Game!" (or something to that effect).

I wish they'd just give a damn name for it lol. I'd be fine with RD&D if they wanted that. I'll stick with 1D&D until they ditch that branding like they did with D&D Next.

 

[Emberashh]

They were NEVER going to call it OneD&D. I still don't quite understand why a lot of people found that unclear.

Not that Im trying to take the convo political, but this to me feels like an identical situation to the $1400 vs $2000 debacle from during the pandemic in the US.

They may well have said it one way, but they were not doing a thing to address just how many people were interpreting it very differently, and Id argue that like that stimulus debacle that some of that was deliberate on their part.

If you're just updating the game, its a bit unnecessary to go out of your way to assure people that 5e content will still be compatible with, if we take their word, 5e itself.

There was no "separate" version all along, thats why they presented it as this separate thing and assured everyone this new thing, that isn't new, will be compatible with all these old things, which aren't actually old.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

They may well have said it one way, but they were not doing a thing to address just how many people were interpreting it very differently

I don't know what you were doing in January of this year, but WotC has a demonstrated history of being really, really bad at communications.