re Frostburn: Everyone worships ICE?!

[FireLance]

I think where Driddle is coming in from is, why are there are so few options for PCs to fight cold-based creatures in the book, kind of like how the Master of Radiance is in Libris Mortis or the Stonedeath Assassin is in Races of Stone.

Apart from a few feats like Cold Endurance, the material in the book seems more about drawing on the power of cold than fighting it.

It's a valid point, although I was (and still am) happy enough with Frostburn not to notice the lack.

 

[Starglim]

Sure, snow and ice and sleet are a the basis of nature in Icefell settings. But you'd think a few intelligent sapiens living in the area would hold WARMTH and FIRE in high enough regard to include them in ... oh, I don't know ... reference to deities and/or prestige classes and the like.

Like Loki, father of everything evil and treacherous, you mean? I can't think of any other fire gods from cold climates, offhand.

 

[Gez]

Surtur, king of the Fire Giants, can be seen as another fire god. At least, that's what they did in Deities & Demigods.

 

[Maggan]

The Fire Giants

Surtur, king of the Fire Giants, can be seen as another fire god. At least, that's what they did in Deities & Demigods.

It is interesting to note that Loki is evil, and the fire giants harbingers of destruction and mayhem. Not a very positive outlook on fire.

Fire is necessary for survival, but it is also the greatest hazard and a fickle mistress. I'm not suprised that there are few fire gods that come to mind when thinking about frostbased ecologies.

Don't know about the eskimos though. Anyone got a handle on them?

Cheers!

Maggan

 

[reanjr]

Sure, snow and ice and sleet are a the basis of nature in Icefell settings. But you'd think a few intelligent sapiens living in the area would hold WARMTH and FIRE in high enough regard to include them in ... oh, I don't know ... reference to deities and/or prestige classes and the like. Most of us hairy creatures are warm-blooded, after all. We like to keep our body temperatures at a certain comfort level.

But nooooooo -- it's all blue and white and freeze-your-tuchas-off icy beauty throughout the whole darned book. Gimme a break! What's up with that?

Well, the only deity of fire or warmth I can think of off the top of my head in the Norse pantheon (well, actually he's a giant, but whatever) is Surtr, the Fire Giant who will set fire to creation during Ragnarok, burning existence (most of it at least) to ash.

 

[MerricB]

Consider also that in a region of ice and frost, the power of the Sun or Fire God is greatly reduced - he may be worshipped, but is relatively ineffectual at doing anything significant.

Cheers!

 

[RSKennan]

Fire is necessary for survival, but it is also the greatest hazard and a fickle mistress. I'm not suprised that there are few fire gods that come to mind when thinking about frostbased ecologies.

Absolutely. In a dangerously frigid environment fire is a double-edged sword. Make a mistake and you're out in the cold.

 

[Driddle]

I think where Driddle is coming in from is, why are there are so few options for PCs to fight cold-based creatures in the book, kind of like how the Master of Radiance is in Libris Mortis or the Stonedeath Assassin is in Races of Stone.

Apart from a few feats like Cold Endurance, the material in the book seems more about drawing on the power of cold than fighting it.

It's a valid point, although I was (and still am) happy enough with Frostburn not to notice the lack.

Thank you. I can sleep easy tonight, knowing there is at least one reasonable person in the world.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Thank you. I can sleep easy tonight, knowing there is at least one reasonable person in the world.

Well, I'm sorry that I'm not resonable just because I don't agree with you.

 

[Felix]

It is interesting to note that Loki is evil,

Is this in print somewhere? I thought Loki was a norse Olidimarra... very CN, but fought with the other gods as much as he played tricks on them...