Real Life Stats

[S'mon]

If S'mon were to give himself an Int of 18, he would neither be overestimating nor boasting. S'mon was an undergraduate at Oxford University, has a PhD in law and is now a professor of that subject. I would say that the odds of finding an adult with S'mon's intellectual ability (innate ability + education) are even longer than 1 in 216.

I would present myself as someone with an Int of 18 but I'd rather not; modesty forbids.

Hi Zander - I'm sure we're both INT 18+ in that we're both in the top 0.5% of the population, INT-wise (age 18 I probably had the highest INT in my law class of 12 students at Oxford - I also had a well below average WIS, maybe the lowest, and low-average CHA in a group whose average CHA was around 8) . I'm sure that's true of many other ENWorld posters though, far more than people seem to realise.

 

[S'mon]

There was an article in Dragon years ago on a college of wizardry in which completing a PhD was level 9. I don't recall what the other levels were.

IMC a Graduate (Bachelors degree) Wizard is level 1, Masters degree level 2, PhD/junior professor level 3, senior lecturer level 4, dean of school level 5. "Ordinary" people are all level 1-5 IMC, 6+ is "heroic".

Edit: Although my job title is Senior Lecturer, I'm at a less prestigious University & I reckon I'm only level 3, but I hope to level up within 4 years.

 

[shilsen]

What were those stats? Are you as broken as I am?

Can't recall, but I think the physical stats were at or below average, Int was 19 (took my IQ and divided by 10), Wis was 20+, and Cha was probably a 14 or so.

As for whether I'm more broken than you, you tell me

 

[Tinker Gnome]

Here are my new stats.

Str: 9999999999999
Dex: 999999999999
Con: 999999999999
Int: 9999999999999
Wis: 999999999999
Cha: 999999999999

Got in a post with Shilsen again!

 

[pntbllr]

Well, I think D&Ders are a highly selective subset of the population with well above average INT, but lower CHA than average and probably lower STR DEX & CON too; and D&Ders WIS will be relatively low compared to INT than for a general population of high-INT people. I think this means that D&Ders compare themselves to other D&Ders, not to the general population, and then underrate their INT while overrating their other stats.

I'm not sure I agree . In my group 6 out of 8 players/dm work in the construction / mechanical fields. Our str would probably be a little higher then average. We also all have very forcefull (sometimes overbearing) personalities(chr). This leads to alot of argueing but we are int enough to talk things out without too many hard feelings.(int/wis)

 

[Arrgh! Mark!]

No idea. People assume I'm strong, but there is a difference between natural ability and learned skill thats a completely different thing. This is an issue for me because it's hard to tell which is natural ability and learned, me being a swordsman of some years now.

Strength: 14-15. According to a online conversion my 100 kg bench press is 220 lbs. However, upper body strength is not everything. I'm semi-muscled, but in no way am I an olympic weight lifter or even serious strength addict. I'm also more flabby than I used to be. people seem to automatically assume I'm stronger than them.

Dexterity: I would say 10-12. I'm not clumsy, but I'm only rarely complimented on natural ability in this field. (*Move your feet!*) I learn quickly, but I'm unsure.

Constitution : 8-12. I do hard work all day and can race up stairs if I'm really energetic. I recover quickly but tend to have permanent sinus problems and being overweight doesn't help..

Intelligence: Relatively high, or average with learning. I argue and reason well, but more from a basis of intuition combined with reason. 13-14. Bachelor in Arts (Philosophy and Literature) and currently studying education.

Wisdom: 8-10. I'm practically night-blind, but am alright at listening. I'm also good at sensing emotion or intention; again, this is a learned skill.

Charisma: 8-12. I'm handsome but slightly overweight. (Someone called my looks teutonic. I hope thats good.) I'm always remembered, take leadership roles generally as a matter of course and often get on well with people.

*- 2 INT for missing grammar and spelling and such. *Sigh*

 

[genshou]

I'm not sure I agree . In my group 6 out of 8 players/dm work in the construction / mechanical fields. Our str would probably be a little higher then average. We also all have very forcefull (sometimes overbearing) personalities(chr). This leads to alot of argueing but we are int enough to talk things out without too many hard feelings.(int/wis)

I'm with pntbllr on this one. I've played with a good number of football players, athletes in general, and my best friend who's just well above average in most ways, like me. I was actually the physically weakest in the group at Str 10; most of them could lift me in the air with one arm. You don't have to have a low Str to be a D&Der. That's just baseless stereotyping.

 

[S'mon]

I'm not sure I agree . In my group 6 out of 8 players/dm work in the construction / mechanical fields. Our str would probably be a little higher then average.

Yup, probably so. The majority of D&Ders don't work in construction/mechanical though. And the kind of people who claim that they do martial arts so they must have Fighter or Monk levels are the kind of people I treat with scepticism. I had army basic training but realistically that barely would make me a War-1, never mind a Fighter. And that was years ago, if I ever had that Warrior level I swapped it for Expert long ago.

 

[S'mon]

You don't have to have a low Str to be a D&Der. That's just baseless stereotyping.

I never said you _had_ to have low STR! There's a difference between stereotyping and averaging. If you take a subset of D&Ders who are serving soldiers in combat infantry units, they probably have average physical stats around 13. If you take a subset of D&Ders who are sedentary Americans, white-collar or unemployed, they probably have average physical stats around 8-9. There are more of the latter than the former, IMO. Likewise D&Der college students will average INT around 13-14 (using 3d6 bell curve distribution), D&Der combat infantry non-officers and D&Der unemployed slackers will likely average lower INT than the college student group, though both probably still well above the average INT of their non-roleplayer grunt or slacker peers.

 

[S'mon]

Also, I suspect a group of ENW posters will have significantly higher INT than the average INT of all D&Ders. This is a highly selective group of an already selective group. I wouldn't be surprised if the average ENWer's INT was around 15 on the 3d6 bell curve.