Rend and Strength improvement?

[Ogrork the Mighty]

Does Rend damage increase if a creature's Str increases?

 

[Thanee]

Yep, it's twice the base damage (i.e. 2x 1d6) + 1.5x Str damage, IIRC.

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Thanee

 

[airwalkrr]

Yep, it's twice the base damage (i.e. 2x 1d6) + 1.5x Str damage, IIRC.

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Thanee

This is reasonable and it's how I usually do things. If you want to get technical though there is nothing in the RAW supporting this. I acknowledge that this seems to be the correct formula for determining the damage on a rend, but there is nothing in the rend ability description that says it is Strength-based or anything like that. So this is purely a matter of interpretation. You could probably justify it either way if you like.

 

[boolean]

From the Troll entry in the Monster Manual.

Trolls As Characters:
<snip>
Special Attacks (see above): Rend, damage 2d6 + 1½ times Str modifier.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Yep, it's twice the base damage (i.e. 2x 1d6) + 1.5x Str damage, IIRC.

The ability is not defined as twice the base damage, but that is usually the case because it usually occurs after 2+ successful claw attacks. When I say "usually" I really mean in all cases I have seen. So, Thanee is spot on.

Here's the definition to support the x 1.5 Str bonus, however:

rend
If a creature with this special attack (extraordinary) hits with the specified natural attack, it latches onto the opponent's body and tears the flesh. A rend attack deals damage equal to the creature's natural attack + 1-1/2 times its Str modifier. The creature's descriptive text gives the exact amount.

 

[airwalkrr]

From the Troll entry in the Monster Manual.

I stand corrected. I should have looked at the "Trolls as Characters" entry in the MM.

 

[lukelightning]

I stand corrected. I should have looked at the "Trolls as Characters" entry in the MM.

What, don't you commonly allow troll PCs?!?!?!