D&D 3E/3.5 Revised 3.5 ranger (or) the it's-never-too-soon-to-improve-on-official-design thread

It's that time again ... to publicly question the printed rules of Wizards of the Coast.

Who am I kidding? It's always that time.

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For the moment, my attentions are being directed at the 3.5 edition ranger. Some of you (who just finished reading the title of this thread) will already be frothing at the mouth in flaming anticipation. Others will actually read the attached PDF with an eye towards objectivity. I look forward to latter responses with much more enthusiasm than the former.

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That said, the reason I have revised the 3.5 edition ranger is because, more than anything, the ranger should exemplify the wilderness warrior archetype, lurking in the forests, scouring the lands, and warding off invaders. And yet none of their latest 3.5 edition abilities truly imbue the ranger with any dominion over their surroundings. The absence of such abilities lead me to create "familiar terrain". The act of doing so also compelled me to restructure the way "favored enemy" works as well. It made no sense that rangers should be forced into choosing 5 different favored enemies by 20th level. They should be able to decide exactly how many enemies they want, or even focus on one enemy in particular.

Moreover, a favored enemy that no longer poses a challenge to the ranger, or a familiar terrain that is no longer explored, should be refocused into a more effectual direction. The attached revision makes all of this possible.

It was also important to give rangers access to their spells sooner rather than later, so that they retain some of their utility before becoming largely redundant. In that vein, I restructured the rate at which rangers gain new spells per day to create a more logical progression (for those of you who are old to Dungeons and Dragons message boards, this is in keeping with my previous revision).

Because rangers cast spells at 1/2 their level, I gave them 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th-level spell access at 2nd, 6th, 10th, and 14th level respectively. That way their effective caster level is 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th level each time they gain higher level spells access; the same levels at which the four devoted spellcasting classes (clerics, druids, sorcerers, and wizards) gain access to their higher level spells.

The next problem with the printed ranger is that anybody who takes 1 level of ranger and then multiclasses, can still track with the same proficiency as a dedicated 20th ranger (albeit by taking Survival as a cross-cross skill, but possible nonetheless). Swift Tracker tries to make rangers the "fastest" trackers, but the distinction is not enough to make them the undisputed masters of tracking. To augment their tracking abilities I created two new track feats (one of which is exclusive to rangers), and converted Swift Tracker into an exclusive ranger feat. These track feats evolved into a list of survival-oriented feats designed to make rangers more hardly and resourceful (see below).

My most controversial change was to drop the automatic bow and two-weapon fighting feats like a proverbial brick (and good riddance). Imposing *any* fighting style on rangers defeats the freedom of expression that every character class should enjoy. What about the axe-fighting woodland ranger? What about the sword and shield skirmishing ranger? These options have been effectively neutered. Sure, a character can still fight with those weapons, but it behooves the "printed" ranger to take advantage of their built-in bonus feats. I consider this poor design. Rangers do not need to be hand-held so blatantly.

If a ranger wants to be a bow or two-weapon fighting specialist, they may become as much by spending their regular feats on the appropriate selections, just like any other 1st-level character (excuse me, rangers have to wait until 2nd level) and benefit from "true" bow or two-weapon fighting, rather than the subdued versions offered to lightly-armored rangers in the printed rules. To make up for the loss of these three combat feats, I added five survival-oriented feats (as mentioned above) to more than adequately fill their void.

Rangers should not be pigeoned-holed into any one direction. They should be free to explore the multitude of possibilities that wilderness archetypes embody. No other core character class is "continually" spoon-fed their feat choices. The ranger should be no different. The attached revision only includes the changes I have made to the printed ranger. If a certain feature is not listed, then you can assume I did not change it.

Moreover, reference to certain feats will be made that do not exist in the latest Player' s Handbook. I have included those feats below. All numbered tables refer to the tables found in the attached PDF.

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CONFUSE TRACKER [GENERAL]
You can obscure your own trail by using disguise and misdirection tactics.
Prerequisite: Track.
Benefit: You and your tracker make opposed Survival checks for every mile of terrain crossed. If the tracker wins this roll, your tracks may be followed normally (as per the Track feat). If you win this roll, the tracker loses all signs of your tracks, but may attempt to beat your opposed roll again after one hour of searching.
You move at half your normal speed (or at your normal speed with a –5 penalty on the opposed check, or at up to twice your normal speed with a –20 penalty on the opposed check).
A character using this feat may also hide their tracks (+5 to the Survival DC modifier) but takes a –5 penalty on the opposed check (and moves at half speed).
Special: A ranger may select Confuse Tracker as one of their bonus ranger feats

EXTRA FAMILIAR TERRAIN [SPECIAL]
You increase your knowledge of terrains.
Prerequisite: One familiar terrain bonus.
Benefit: You select an additional familiar terrain from those given on Table 3–16 of the ranger description, or increase the bonuses of an existing familiar terrain by 2.
Special: You can gain Extra Familiar Terrain multiple times. Its effects stack.
A ranger may select Extra Familiar Terrain as one of their bonus ranger feats.

EXTRA FAVORED ENEMY [SPECIAL]
You increase your knowledge of enemies.
Prerequisite: One favored enemy bonus.
Benefit: You select an additional favored enemy from those given on Table 3–14 of the ranger description, or increase the bonuses of an existing favored enemy by 2.
Special: You can gain Extra Favored Enemy multiple times. Its effects stack.
A ranger may select Extra Favored Enemy as one of their bonus ranger feats.

GREATER SKILL FOCUS [GENERAL]
Choose a skill to which you have already applied the Skill Focus feat. Your understanding of that skill is now even more comprehensive than before.
Prerequisite: Skill Focus, 5 ranks in selected skill.
Benefit: You get a +6 bonus on all checks involving that skill. This bonus stacks with other bonuses on that skill roll, including the one from Skill Focus (see below).
Special: You can gain Greater Skill Focus multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new skill.
A ranger may select Greater Skill Focus as one of their ranger bonus feats.

GREATER SKILL SYNERGY [GENERAL]
Choose two complimentary or unrelated skills to which you have already applied the Skill Synergy feat. Your understanding of those skills is now even more comprehensive than before.
Prerequisite: Skill Synergy or one of the following feats (Acrobatic, Agile, Alertness, Animal Affinity, Athletic, Charlatan, Deceitful, Deft Hands, Diligent, Investigator, Magical Aptitude, Negotiator, Nimble Fingers, Self-Sufficient, Shadow, and Stealthy, Trustworthy), 5 ranks in both selected skills.
Benefit: You get a +4 bonus on all checks involving both skills. These bonuses stack with other bonuses on both skill rolls, including the ones from Skill Synergy, or one of the other prerequisite feats (see below).
Special: You can gain Greater Skill Synergy multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new set of skills.
A ranger may select Greater Skill Synergy as one of their ranger bonus feats.

IMPROVED SWIMMING [GENERAL]
You swim faster than you normally could.
Prerequisite: Swim 6 ranks or a swim speed.
Benefit: You swim at one-half of your speed as a move action or at three-quarters of your speed as a full-round action. If you have a swim speed, then you can swim faster by +10 feet instead.
Normal: You swim at one-quarter of your speed as a move action or at one-half of your speed as a full round action

PREDICT TRACKS [SPECIAL]
You can extrapolate the destination of your quarry.
Prerequisite: Track, ranger level 10th.
Benefit: You can skip ahead for 1 mile at maximum speed for every point by which your Survival check (for the Track feat) exceeded the Survival DC. You do not have to find the tracks again at this point, but another Survival check is required to follow them for 1 mile before using Predict Tracks again. You must have been following a set of tracks for at least 1 mile before using this feat. Skipping ahead in this manner never overshoots your quarry, but adjusts to their current location. Any rests your quarry takes are factored into this feat. If an interposing force interrupted your quarry during this time, you must double back in order to find their tracks again.
Special: A ranger may select Predict Tracks as one of their bonus ranger feats.

SKILL SYNERGY [GENERAL]
Choose two complimentary or unrelated skills. You have a special knack with those skills.
Benefit: You get a +2 bonus on all checks involving both skills.
Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new set of skills, neither of which have already been combined using this feat. For the purposes of this restriction, Acrobatic, Agile, Alertness, Animal Affinity, Athletic, Deceitful, Deft Hands, Diligent, Investigator, Magical Aptitude, Negotiator, Nimble Fingers, Self-Sufficient, and Stealthy are counted as being Skill Synergy feats.
A ranger may select Skill Synergy as one of their ranger bonus feats.

SWIFT TRACKER [SPECIAL]
You can move faster than normal when tracking your quarry across terrain.
Prerequisite: Track, ranger level 6th.
Benefit: You can move at your normal speed without difficulty while following tracks, or at up to twice your normal speed with a –10 penalty on the check.
Normal: A character without this feat takes a –5 penalty on the tracking check for moving at their normal speed and a –20 penalty for moving at up to twice their normal speed.
Special: A ranger may select Swift Tracker as one of their ranger bonus feats.

WAKING SLEEP [GENERAL]
You remain aware of your surroundings while meditating or sleeping.
Prerequisite: Alertness.
Benefits: You can make Listen checks as though awake while still gaining the benefits of sleep (but not complete bed rest).
Special: A ranger may select Waking Sleep as one of their ranger bonus feats.
 
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lp

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I dunno, but please fix it. I agree with pretty much everything you said, so I want to take a gander at those rules. :)
 



Howdy Jack.

The biggest mistake the printed version of the ranger continues to make is forcing rangers to take multiple favored enemies (rather than letting the class choose how many enemies they want for themselves). Your version of the ranger does the same thing. While it's true that the new rules allows characters to designate their future bonuses towards a more current enemy, it still racks up those old bonuses; when they should really be refocused against enemies that are more relevant (not unlike the way bards and sorcerers can now forget old spells in exchange for new ones). Favored enemy should work along the same lines.

Maximized, the printed ranger can have four favored enemies with a +2, +2, +2, and +2 bonus, and one favored enemy with a +10 bonus.

Maximized, my revised ranger can have one favored enemy with a +10 bonus.

For the printed ranger, all of those +2 bonuses are pretty much useless. My revision avoids them completely and offers a familiar terrain bonus instead. Those familiar terrain abilities also amount to a +10 bonus (when maximized).

More importantly, however, familiar terrain gives rangers some meaningful dominion over their natural surroundings, which is currently lacking in the printed ranger design.
 
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After further reflection, I added more bonus feat choices to the ranger bonus feat list. Most of these additional feats can be found in the Masters of the Wild guidebook, but one cannot (Familiar Defense). I have included that feat below, in addition to another Masters of the Wild feat that needed updating (Brachiation).

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BRACHIATION [GENERAL]
You move through trees by jumping, running, and swinging from one branch to another.
Prerequisite: Str 13, Climb 5 ranks, Jump 5 ranks.
Benefit: You move through trees in sparse forest terrain at one-half of your normal speed as a full-round action. You move through trees in medium forest terrain at your normal speed as a full-round action. You move through trees in dense forest terrain at your normal speed as a move action. You may not use this ability while holding an item in either hand or when wearing medium or heavy armor.
Special: A ranger may select Brachiation as one of their bonus ranger feats.

FAMILIAR DEFENSE [SPECIAL]
Choose one region of familiar terrain. In this terrain, you have a sixth sense about avoiding attacks.
Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +6, one familiar terrain bonus.
Benefit: When negotiating the region of familiar terrain you selected, add your Wisdom bonus (if any) to your AC. This bonus to AC applies even against touch attacks or when you are flat-footed. You only lose this bonus when helpless, immobilized, carrying a medium or heavy load, carrying a shield, or wearing medium or heavy armor.
Special: You can gain Familiar Defense multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new familiar terrain.
A ranger may select Familiar Defense as one of their bonus ranger feats.
 
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The latest PDF can be found above, at the original link.

One additional change I am considering is whether or not to give the ranger a d10 for hit points again. I can only justify this change by taking something away from my revised ranger.

Right away, I think skill points, lowering the 6 skill points per level back to 4 skill points per level. I think skill points because familiar terrain now offers a wealth of skill bonuses (in the same way that favored enemy does). But would that be enough give-and-take to account for the hit point increase? Should I also give rangers (poor) Reflex saving throws again to account for the improved hit dice?

Any and all feedback would be appreciated.
 
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Inari

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Hehe, I like this ranger indeed. I've already notified my DM, and he agrees that it's better than the standard 3.5 ranger.

But however... I'd recommend giving him a bit more choices in bonus feats. Stuff like for example Improved Initiative or Quick Draw or Two weapon defence, or [insert ranger-like feat]. You get the idea...

*Edit* ohh yeah, as a sidenote, maybe change the Canny reaction stat from Int, to Wis. It might just be me, but I think that it's somehow more "Ranger-ish" to have it Wis. Plus, few hardcore rangers actually have a higher Int stat than 12, as it's one of their few drop stats (you'd kinda have to stretch their stats if you'd want them to be at their full potential). Anyways, just a thought.
 
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Okay, here is the latest revision; d10 hit die, 4 skill points, and all the bonus feat choices I added in version 2. I figured that gaining an average of 1 hit point per level was balanced off by sacrificing 2 skill points per level (especially in light of all the skill bonuses gained from both favored enemy and familiar terrain).
 

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