Reworking of Races, Subraces and Existing Campaign Worlds

[grimslade]

There are those green elves, again... source?

Sorry, I am not a Realms scholar but they pop up all through the Grand History of the Realms. I have no idea what the difference is. They are not from Seros, which would be of interest to you, they seem to be FR versions of Wild elves. Kae Yoss could probably elucidate.

 

[howandwhy99]

I like many of the changes apparently being done to races thus far, such as the splitting of the elves into Eladrin (what used to be arcane/civilized elves) and Elves (the naturalist elves) on top of the Drow. Nevertheless, I wonder whether this is going to be shoehorned into existing campaign worlds. For example, the Forgotten Realms has a history of numerous elven subraces, and it would make little continuity sense to get rid of them in favour of the new system. There are also the Planetouched, in FR. Aasimar, it seems, may bear some similarity to the new Eladrin, yet due to continuity reasons, I would still rather keep the aasimar in the Realms, even though I like what they are doing with the races in core.

I think wizards will alter their published settings to represent the changes in the rules. That's the best way or folks start wondering why the rules are different from their big ticket campaign worlds.

Settings not owned by Wizards, like any homebrew, don't need changing at all. Just change the rules.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

There are those green elves, again... source?

It's just another name for wild elves. The Realmsian elves usually have two different names ("official" ones, there's always other terms, including deragoratory ones):

Wild elves/green elves are more or less the wild elves from the SRD (maybe some cultural differences and fine details in abilities, something like different weapon proficiencies I think)

Wood elves are also called copper elves, and are like the SRD wood elves.

"Standard" elves (those with dex/con) are Silver/Moon elves (if you want to insult them, call them grey elves), though they differ in cultural and physical matters.

There's also gold/sun elves, the smart guys, though unlike srd grey elves, they only get + int and - con (no str or dex adjustment).

Beyond that there's drow/dark elves, sea elves, and avariel/winged elves. There's a special breed of elves, mithral/star elves, living in their own demiplane with little interaction with Faerûn.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

They are not from Seros, which would be of interest to you, they seem to be FR versions of Wild elves. Kae Yoss could probably elucidate.

Funny that I seem to be the local FR/elf sage. I guess the real sages don't hang out here enough.

Well, since I dropped the Realms like a hot potato, I guess this title will fade with time. If anyone wants to know about Pathfinder, and its world, Golarion, I'm going to do some sageing there now.

 

[Aeolius]

It's just another name for wild elves.

ahh.. grugach. Gotcha.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

ahh.. grugach. Gotcha.

Come to think of it: I think the wood/wild elf history is that they were once one race that split a couple of millenia or so ago and developed into those two different races. It could be that early mentions of green elves refer to that proto-race. But like I said: Those two races really should be a single one