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Rise Of Nations RTS: Any Good?

How good is Rise Of Nations?

  • Great! Buy it!

    Votes: 10 76.9%
  • Decent, but nothing special.

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Sucks! Cheap knock-off.

    Votes: 1 7.7%

Goodsport said:
RoN is an absolute blast, and the Thrones & Patriots expansion pack adds much to it, including more civilizations, scenarios and options (including types of government). :cool:

If you already have RoN, definitely get T&P! If you're planning on getting RoN, make sure to get T&P as well!


-G

*stops conquering the world*
i second this. :D
*starts up again*
 

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Is there a place to get legitimate copies on the cheap? I'm semi-interested, but not enough to splurge a huge amount of money. (I've been buying DVDs lately, plus bought my dad a DVD/VCR combo, and am giving a cheap DVD player to a local non-profit... Quite a bite, but what the heck...)

How good are the demos? How much of the dreadful RTS-syndrome has been put in? (That is, if I buy it, am I in for a click-fest? Because I'm not coordinated with a mouse, and I don't want to shoot my own units again. :) )
 

Heretic Apostate said:
How good are the demos? How much of the dreadful RTS-syndrome has been put in? (That is, if I buy it, am I in for a click-fest? Because I'm not coordinated with a mouse, and I don't want to shoot my own units again. :) )

RoN and T&P are click-fests, far worse than any other RTS I've ever played. You're constantly clicking buildings for upgrades. The game is okay (I've played the RoN/T&P demo at least a dozen times, and every time felt like the heart and soul was missing. The Conquer The World campaign was the best part, because tech levels are limited or stagnant for much of the scenarios, reducing the clickfest nature. This is not a game I feel good shelling out $50+ for. I much prefer Age of Mythology and its expansion pack. To be fair, I really dislike modern setting RTS games and that's when I lose interest in RoN, when the industrial revolution comes into play and suddenly, you're stuck dealing with nukes, bombers and all kinds of crap. Too many units with too many ways past your defenses.
 

I'm a veteran RTS gamer who is also a veteran RoN gamer :)

Most of the points here are accurate, to a large degree...

RoN = RTS Game with new concepts, wider varieties of games, longer game play.

It lacks the RPG elements of AoM, and related games, but it also lacks the pure algorithmic approach of older RTS' like starcraft, TA, and AoE.

The concept of national borders, and your inability to build beyond them, limits the value of the early rush. The attrition damage to enemies within your territory limit it further. Additional concepts re-enforce battlefield tactical planning and manuevering.

It can be a clickfest - learn your hotkeys and learn them well, you'll reduce your clicking by 90% :) It's the best game I've ever seen for pure hotkey control. If you get real fancy, the only clicking you'll do is selecting units.

The base game can be extremely quick and extraordinaly fast moving. It has options to slow these down somewhat, and you can easily download some mods to slow it down further.

The latter ages do come with a bewildering myriad variety of options to attack with and defend against. I'd recommend simply disabling the final age altogether - nukes and instant military production is just silly and was only included to allow a swift end to the game in the final age.

This leaves you capped at the modern age, with b52 style bombers and Abrams tanks level of warfare - doable and manageable - everything has it's proper counter and a semi-counter.


Definitely a worth while game to buy if you have a few friends to play with, and probably even if you don't. I can usually configure my games to give 3-4 humans a 50/50 chance of survival against the computers - but then that's with the mod I made for it that slows the game down quite a bit and changes a few things around.

And yes, the Chinese are quite broken in that game. Egyptians nearly are too, and most all players will agree that Mayans, pre-patch, were as broken as they get :)

Buy the game if you've ever enjoyed any RTS' that didn't have 'heroes' :)
 

For those who are wondering, Rise of Nations includes these nations (in alphabetical order):

  • Aztecs
  • Bantu
  • British
  • Chinese
  • Egyptians
  • French
  • Germans
  • Greeks
  • Inca
  • Japanese
  • Koreans
  • Maya
  • Mongols
  • Nubians
  • Romans
  • Russians
  • Spanish
  • Turks


The Thrones & Patriots expansion pack adds these nations (again, in alphabetical order):

  • Americans
  • Dutch
  • Indians
  • Iroquois
  • Lakota
  • Persians


-G
 


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