So, just to be clear, are you taking the same position as my DM, which is that if a rogue begins the combat in sight of an enemy, that rogue cannot attempt to hide during the combat because the enemy has seen him?That's what you have been talking about, but what I've been talking about is that he might very well have failed, because the circumstances were against him.
In my reading, that just means you can't "John Cena away" or hide behind a bath towel.There are many sentences around stealth, in particular the one that says that you can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly.
Not in line with the part that says you gain the benefit of being an unseen attacker after making a successful stealth check to hide.If you pop out to attack from behind a pillar while a creature is watching that pillar, you are not hidden, even before you make your attack. Simple, clear and absolutely in line with the RAW.
All of this is what the stealth check is meant to cover. If you succeed on it, then it's NOT obvious that you went back to the same place. The roll represents your ability to get back there without the target realizing that you have done so. The factors of "nowhere else to hide" and "the target is watching the pillar" are factors that may contribute to the DC of the check.But if you have made it obvious that you have hidden there already, that you went back to the same place, and there is nowhere else to hide, and the target is watching the pillar
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