Romantic Fantasy- Blue Rose

I got a much better feel for what they are trying to do by reading the fiction. Not a fan of Lackey, but I am a fan of Diane Duane, strangely enough, and while the overall world is not for me, I'm interested to see what the reviews will say about the rules and new magic system.
 

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It really does sound like a d20 lite game. Castles and Crusades (which I intend to buy) always struck me as a simpler version of DnD. I envision telling the same stories with C&C as D&D.

Blue Rose sounds like a d20 lite that actually embraces the RP aspects of RPGs. That is a huge draw for me. I enjoy combat, but I prefer it to be fast, edge of your seat action that enhances the story rather than just another one of those 4 encounters needed a session blah blah....

Blue Rose seems to offer that.
 


Not that I have time for another game, but this sounds rather interesting to me.

I could see it now if I started running something from this - on the one hand Midnight on the other Blue Rose. They seem almost like they are polar opposites from what I've seen so far. Of course it would be bad if I started blending the two and Izrador starts to get in touch with his feminine side...
 

Sorry about that one. I completely forgot about the links. Thanks for posting them Ben.

Blue Rose really seems tied to politcal intrigue, courtly romance, and personal story lines. Of course, there is a lot of epic stuff in the inspirational works as well.

For my part, I am looking forward to a game where every feat is not tied to combat and not seen as useless for being a good RP choice.
 

Only nitpick I have with comments so far is the "I hope they don't mean impossibly archetypal" line. If I want to roleplay swashbuckling fast-paced fantasy, I want impossibly idealistic and perfect folks. I mean, perfect in multiple senses -- the perfect cultured warrior prince is different from the perfect roguish squire, and both are different from the perfect sinister manipulative duke or the perfect brutish thug of a stablemaster.

One thing that sort of bums me about my current group, and this is not a slam on my current group but a general state-of-nature kind of deal, is that I think they've reached a saturation point with the existing system and are now just screwing around to make weird stuff. Dwarven ranger/bard? Well, it's more comic relief than anything else, but I've done everything else to death. Half-orc druid/monk/shadowdancer? Yeah, why not?

If I can use Blue Rose to get them engaged in the idea of the archetypes again, that would be fun.
 

I'm definately interested in it. I'm a big Misty Lackey fan, since the day I spotted "Arrows of the Queen" near the signout line of the library. For me, the animal companion aspect is a big draw, as is the concept of magic as skills/feats. Of course, Stephanie Pui-Man Law's artwork is a huge plus. :)

I have at least one friend who thinks D&D is too complicated, that this might be a good game to introduce her with.
 

Thornir Alekeg said:
I could see it now if I started running something from this - on the one hand Midnight on the other Blue Rose. They seem almost like they are polar opposites from what I've seen so far. Of course it would be bad if I started blending the two and Izrador starts to get in touch with his feminine side...
I think Izrador, painted on the cover as a Fabio lookalike without a shirt from one of those bodice-ripper romance novel, is actually a pretty intriguing concept. :p
 

takyris said:
Only nitpick I have with comments so far is the "I hope they don't mean impossibly archetypal" line. If I want to roleplay swashbuckling fast-paced fantasy, I want impossibly idealistic and perfect folks. I mean, perfect in multiple senses -- the perfect cultured warrior prince is different from the perfect roguish squire, and both are different from the perfect sinister manipulative duke or the perfect brutish thug of a stablemaster.

Just a matter of personal taste. I find "The obscenely chaste blonde, blue-eyed princess in a tower waiting for prince charming to rescue her" thing to be frightfully dull.

I like my romance to be a bit spicier.

Like my tale of the royal race with a seductive society who make harems of their would be assassins. Much more interesting to win over the enemy by making them burn with desire than, say, preaching them in to complacancy or impressing them with your purity.

It's part of what worries me about the psychic animals of the world. It looks too cuddly. Now, if some of them are reptiles, or something like boars and wolverines...

Tragic romantic figures are always good, of course. The bard who pines for his lost love, seeking to find her features in others, but always dissapointed with the rest of their features... very romantic, but actually the kind of sick obssessive compulsive thing you actually find once in awhile (Albeit usually via stalkers, heh).

Basically, while I'm not neccissarily in to -dark- romance (though that can be quite fun, too), the pastel romance (like all things pastel in hue) makes me mildly queazy. I'm hoping Blue Rose promotes romantic fantasy in general, and not just the sort that inspires rosy cheeks, high foreheads, gray eyes, blonde curls, etc.

Give me gypsy or pirate style romance, now that's where the fun is.
 

Just a matter of personal taste. I find "The obscenely chaste blonde, blue-eyed princess in a tower waiting for prince charming to rescue her" thing to be frightfully dull.

Me too. I've only read a wee bit of Mercedes Lackey, but I didn't see any of that there.

Like my tale of the royal race with a seductive society who make harems of their would be assassins. Much more interesting to win over the enemy by making them burn with desire than, say, preaching them in to complacancy or impressing them with your purity.

So... Goodkind, then? :)

It's part of what worries me about the psychic animals of the world. It looks too cuddly. Now, if some of them are reptiles, or something like boars and wolverines...

Yeah, it sounds like you're looking for a slightly different flavor. One which can actually be done with ordinary D&D, I would think. Although if you could stretch the political intrigue/romance definition to include Robin Hobb, you've got people using Wit to bond with all kinds of animals. Kristen Britain's more-intelligent-than-normal horse-companions that stay with her Green Riders might fit into this field as well, and they kick bad guys to death on a fairly regular basis. I don't know that I'd consider that "cuddly", per se.

And Pern would fit, possibly, with people bonding with dragons and whatever-the-little-mini-dragons-were-called. The women are by no means chaste and docile in that world, either.

Basically, while I'm not neccissarily in to -dark- romance (though that can be quite fun, too), the pastel romance (like all things pastel in hue) makes me mildly queazy. I'm hoping Blue Rose promotes romantic fantasy in general, and not just the sort that inspires rosy cheeks, high foreheads, gray eyes, blonde curls, etc.

I believe that's the worst misspelling of "scarlet-tressed" I've seen all day.

Seriously, I don't believe that anyone said that it was going to be the way you're worried about it being. I mean, I hope that it ain't that way, too, but I've read enough of the authors they're describing that I don't see that as a real problem. I'm sure that anyone who wants to run a "chaste, pretty girl is called ugly and stupid by evil female peers until handsome male authority figure recognizes her secret magical gift for using crystals to create rainbows that make the unicorns sing"-style campaign will be able to do so, but I'm much more interested in the political intrigue and the possibility of having a book that addresses the game mechanics-versus-roleplaying question for social encounters.

I'm interested in something more complex than "Okay, Sense Motive... yeah, this guy is evil -- roll initiative" or "Diplomacy of 22 -- yeah, she's totally into you". I've been able to get that with D&D sometimes (and I'm obviously exaggerating the degree of simplicity, just as you've slightly exaggerated the possible simplicity of Blue Rose), but it hasn't always been easy or supported happily by the rules.

Give me gypsy or pirate style romance, now that's where the fun is.

Those both sound good to me. :) I'd happily play in both of those.
 

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