Van Dyksun
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Oh, so you're just doing that to hassle us, eh?
I've got the FAQ now AND I've got your number, bucky.
I've got the FAQ now AND I've got your number, bucky.
Rope Trick... Broken?
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Pielorinho
Iron Fist of Pelor
Re: Re: Re: Rope Trick... Broken?
That, as they say, is a feature, not a bug, of the armor. You wouldn't want your rope trick space to resize itself; on the contrary, you'd want it to be as big as possible, so that you could fit as many people as possible.
Daniel
smetzger said:
That, as they say, is a feature, not a bug, of the armor. You wouldn't want your rope trick space to resize itself; on the contrary, you'd want it to be as big as possible, so that you could fit as many people as possible.
Daniel
About the Bag of Holding and Rope Trick. In 3ed you have three types of spaces.
Bag of Holding = nondimensional space.
Rope Trick = extradimensional space
Cant find but there is = extraplaner space.
Any time you stack same spaces you get the Big Bang.
Different spaces work fine as they can stack.
This is IIRC.
Bag of Holding = nondimensional space.
Rope Trick = extradimensional space
Cant find but there is = extraplaner space.
Any time you stack same spaces you get the Big Bang.
Different spaces work fine as they can stack.
This is IIRC.
Pielorinho
Iron Fist of Pelor
AuraSeer said:
If you quantify magic but only do it halfway, you can run into some big old silliness. A few examples:
-Does a wizard's toad familiar count against the 8-character limit?
-What about the sorcerer's housecat familiar?
-What about the druid's housecat animal companion?
-What about the druid's grizzly bear animal companion?
-What about the druid's trained grizzly bear?
-What about the druid's bear's intestinal tapeworm?
-What about the paladin polymorphed into an intestinal tapeworm?
-What about the eight dead pixies the grizzly bear ate for lunch?
-What about the eight pixies with protection from acid currently living inside the grizzly bear's belly?
-What about undead pixies?
To say that (for example) a grizzly bear who's eaten eight pixies can fit inside the space, but that if some of the pixies haven't yet died in its stomach it can't fit, boggles the mind.
Rather than deal with that sort of nonsense, I'll try to quantify it sensibly (in D&D) or not quantify it at all (in Mage: the Ascension)
Daniel
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IceBear
Explorer
I typically allow magic to reflex the size of the caster - you can get into some weird problems with casters that occupy more than a 5ft by 5ft square and some spells. Sure, that makes some spells weaker for some creatures and more powerful for others, but I think the amount of magical energy manipulated could be influenced by the size of the caster, and it makes sure all spells are useful to all spellcasters.
I'm either going to restrict this spell to 8 Medium sized creatures, or 8 creatures of the same size as the caster.
Then again, it could be a dimension where everything is of the same size, even if they don't look it (Lots of fun to make up kooky stuff when planar physics is involved
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IceBear
I'm either going to restrict this spell to 8 Medium sized creatures, or 8 creatures of the same size as the caster.
Then again, it could be a dimension where everything is of the same size, even if they don't look it (Lots of fun to make up kooky stuff when planar physics is involved
)IceBear
The Souljourner
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Dude, it's ROPE TRICK! Who cares if 8 Colossal Red Dragons can fit in it?
-The Souljourner
-The Souljourner
Pielorinho
Iron Fist of Pelor
The Souljourner said:
You obviously either don't have my players, or you are one of my players.
That's exactly the kind of thing they'd say. And if I agreed with them and let it slide, then next thing I knew, they'd be filling up the empty space with adamantium blocks and dispelling it just as their enemies passed beneath it.
Don't give an inch, I say! An inch!
Daniel
The Souljourner
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*rofl* Adamantium bricks! *lol* Oh man, that's a great idea! 
If they have the time and resources to fill a rope trick with adamantium bricks, successfully lure a creature under the rope, and then dispel it at just the right time.... I'd say they deserve some reward. The nice thing is, that trick works even on guys with spell resistance and AC up the wazoo... still, I'd give the poor creature a reflex save for half and depending on how much stuff was up there, wouldn't make it take more than 10d6 unless there was an *incredible* amount of stuff in the rope trick.
So... it's all in how you play it. In my book, this seems like a trap that would take a hellishly long time to set up. Most players aren't that patient (especially the type that come up with stuff like this
)
-The Souljourner
If they have the time and resources to fill a rope trick with adamantium bricks, successfully lure a creature under the rope, and then dispel it at just the right time.... I'd say they deserve some reward. The nice thing is, that trick works even on guys with spell resistance and AC up the wazoo... still, I'd give the poor creature a reflex save for half and depending on how much stuff was up there, wouldn't make it take more than 10d6 unless there was an *incredible* amount of stuff in the rope trick.
So... it's all in how you play it. In my book, this seems like a trap that would take a hellishly long time to set up. Most players aren't that patient (especially the type that come up with stuff like this
)-The Souljourner
