cog_and_taz
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[SBLOCK=citadel]I was under the impression that it was the prisony bit under the base? Anyvay, for convinience's sake, let's just say everything works out this time, and use the correct names and the like from now on?[/SBLOCK]
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tiluvias99
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[sblock=OOC]Well. maybe we should decide on some things then 
Are we gonna have the citadel be a prison beneath our HQ, be our HQ, or be another building?
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[sblock=For Ink]Hey Ink, I was looking over the Spellfire wielder feat and I had some questions. You that your body acts as a Rod of Absorption with a Max of 17 spell levels. Does this mean that you can absorb 17 levels total of the course of your character's life (like how a Rod of Absorption can absorb/discharge 50 levels total), or does it mean that whenever you are the target of a spell, your count goes up, to a max of 17, and by discharging you lower the count (presumably down to zero)?
If it's the latter, wouldn't one essentially be immune to all targeted spells? I mean, on your opponent's turn, he cast a spell at you, raising your count from 0 up to X. On your turn, you discharge (by either firing a ray or healing) an equivalent of X, reducing your count back down to 0.
So unless you were the target of more than 17 spell levels per round, you'd never take any of the effects of any spell.
Is this right? Or is it the former version, were you can absorb (and discharge) a total of 17 levels? Is it a "per day" thing?
Also, for the Resculpt Mind feat, how are you doing that? Considering that, first off, Psionic Combat Modes don't exist, and that Mem is taking it as a flaw at level 1 when the Pre-Reqs require Manifester Level 3.
Also, Infused Contruction requires a ML of 6, and you're taking it for your 1st and 5th level Eruidite feats. And for your 3 and 5 level Resculpt feats.
And you can't get a bonus feat from Resculpt Mind at 1st level in order to take Quicken Power, even if you could take Resculpt Mind.[/sblock][/sblock]
Are we gonna have the citadel be a prison beneath our HQ, be our HQ, or be another building?
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[sblock=For Ink]Hey Ink, I was looking over the Spellfire wielder feat and I had some questions. You that your body acts as a Rod of Absorption with a Max of 17 spell levels. Does this mean that you can absorb 17 levels total of the course of your character's life (like how a Rod of Absorption can absorb/discharge 50 levels total), or does it mean that whenever you are the target of a spell, your count goes up, to a max of 17, and by discharging you lower the count (presumably down to zero)?
If it's the latter, wouldn't one essentially be immune to all targeted spells? I mean, on your opponent's turn, he cast a spell at you, raising your count from 0 up to X. On your turn, you discharge (by either firing a ray or healing) an equivalent of X, reducing your count back down to 0.
So unless you were the target of more than 17 spell levels per round, you'd never take any of the effects of any spell.
Is this right? Or is it the former version, were you can absorb (and discharge) a total of 17 levels? Is it a "per day" thing?
Also, for the Resculpt Mind feat, how are you doing that? Considering that, first off, Psionic Combat Modes don't exist, and that Mem is taking it as a flaw at level 1 when the Pre-Reqs require Manifester Level 3.
Also, Infused Contruction requires a ML of 6, and you're taking it for your 1st and 5th level Eruidite feats. And for your 3 and 5 level Resculpt feats.
And you can't get a bonus feat from Resculpt Mind at 1st level in order to take Quicken Power, even if you could take Resculpt Mind.[/sblock][/sblock]
cog_and_taz
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[SBLOCK=OOC]That would be a good idea. In summary...
Irthos: with due respect Mem, what the hell have you done?
Mem: Et tu, goblin?
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Irthos: with due respect Mem, what the hell have you done?
Mem: Et tu, goblin?
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Ryfte
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Hey there...
[sblock=Been Around]... but for some reason I wasn't getting my notices from any of my enworld stuff.
I've had a tough time tracking where anyone was in this game so far, lol.
Grendle has kinda gone about her merry way for the most part.
I'll make sure to check in and start posting... so... summary, we're split up, some in the HQ in the surface building or just outside it... while others are at the temple of Pelor as it finishes burning and still more are in the Citadel (a.k.a. the underground, undead guarded prison) and Grendle is... where in all this?
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[sblock=Been Around]... but for some reason I wasn't getting my notices from any of my enworld stuff.
I've had a tough time tracking where anyone was in this game so far, lol.
Grendle has kinda gone about her merry way for the most part.
I'll make sure to check in and start posting... so... summary, we're split up, some in the HQ in the surface building or just outside it... while others are at the temple of Pelor as it finishes burning and still more are in the Citadel (a.k.a. the underground, undead guarded prison) and Grendle is... where in all this?
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tiluvias99
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[sblock=OOC]Summary of events:
Endeca was attacked in the night by a spirit. This spirit said it was sent by Mem for bothering Es. Endeca destroyed the spirit, barely managing to survive. Endeca then went to Irthos's romms, and told Irthos and Iejir that Mem sent a spirit after her to kill her. Irthos healed Endeca, and sent Iejir off to Mem's rooms to find out if she was there and bring her to Irthos. When he got there, there was a letter and a knife. The knife was to be delivered to Es, and the letter was for Irthos. It said something along the lines of "I trust you. You know where my body is. If you need me, call out". Irthos then sent Iejir out to go find Grendle and fill her in on what's been happening, and then for the two of them to go into the city and find out what's going on out there.
Meanwhile, Endeca and Irthos were on their way out to find out what was going on in the city for themselves. On their way out, Irthos left Endeca, and went to a private room where he called on Mem. Irthos asked Mem whether or not she sent the spirit after Endeca, and Mem said no, and got really angry at Irthos for doubting her. Meanwhile, Endeca sent a message to Es saying that she was attacked by Mem. Es freaked out, and is now looking for Endeca.
...Damn.[/sblock]-----------------------------
Iejir finally arrives at Grendle's room. He sends a quick thought to Irthos telling him, then steadies himself and knocks on the door softly.
Endeca was attacked in the night by a spirit. This spirit said it was sent by Mem for bothering Es. Endeca destroyed the spirit, barely managing to survive. Endeca then went to Irthos's romms, and told Irthos and Iejir that Mem sent a spirit after her to kill her. Irthos healed Endeca, and sent Iejir off to Mem's rooms to find out if she was there and bring her to Irthos. When he got there, there was a letter and a knife. The knife was to be delivered to Es, and the letter was for Irthos. It said something along the lines of "I trust you. You know where my body is. If you need me, call out". Irthos then sent Iejir out to go find Grendle and fill her in on what's been happening, and then for the two of them to go into the city and find out what's going on out there.
Meanwhile, Endeca and Irthos were on their way out to find out what was going on in the city for themselves. On their way out, Irthos left Endeca, and went to a private room where he called on Mem. Irthos asked Mem whether or not she sent the spirit after Endeca, and Mem said no, and got really angry at Irthos for doubting her. Meanwhile, Endeca sent a message to Es saying that she was attacked by Mem. Es freaked out, and is now looking for Endeca.
...Damn.[/sblock]-----------------------------
Iejir finally arrives at Grendle's room. He sends a quick thought to Irthos telling him, then steadies himself and knocks on the door softly.
[sblock=ooc]wow leave a couple of days and chaos...hahahahahaha. Wow it will take another post longer than Mem's character sheet to explain everything of Mem's mechanics if you can't see it with the links and all 
since the character sheet explains everything as well as I could.
I can...repeat... but since the character took like 2 weeks of almost full time work, I don't know how much of this you would like to hear. I will put my answers in the most general terms, I can answer them one by one Cog, but if you Tiluvias look up the character itself along with all the links and posts provided, it would save me some time for "in character posting" since we posted up the character's mechanics with all relavent links long long ago .
1) Yes, the prision is under the Citadel. It is not another building. The Citadel was once an Arena. It now serves as HQ, Prison, hideout, Barracks for the city and harbor guards of our quarter, office, sleeping quarters, meeting hall etc...--everything we need--except the money to keep it running.
Quote "She has prepared the guards well, from yesterday’s early evening, every room and halls of the Citadel alight with burning volcanic emissions torches every ten feet, every able soldier on full alert, weapons in hand, watches substituted by the quarter hour—and this was the day.
The humans could hardly understand the sternness of beautiful giant’s ways. Weren’t they at peace? But with one look, none in a thousand had much thought of asking. Like a titan of old, she sits back, the stadium a great hearth, thinking on what others would name a throne; she had meditated, but not slept.
Ingeniously tempered from volcanic networks structured far below the Citadel, the huge “Eternal flame of Gladiators” smolders a harsh crimson in the center of the arena; its heat reflects tenderly against Mem’s brow but does not warm her. There was never time to sleep it seemed. There was only time for change. "
2) tiluvias: yes, that is correct, just as spellfire the feat reads.
3) Quote "Also, for the Resculpt Mind feat, how are you doing that? Considering that, first off, Psionic Combat Modes don't exist, and that Mem is taking it as a flaw at level 1 when the Pre-Reqs require Manifester Level 3.Also, Infused Contruction requires a ML of 6, and you're taking it for your 1st and 5th level Eruidite feats. And for your 3 and 5 level Resculpt feats. And you can't get a bonus feat from Resculpt Mind at 1st level in order to take Quicken Power, even if you could take Resculpt Mind"
Answer: Psychic Reformation (Though it might take you about 2 hours to see how everything fits together since it was done over a 2 week period, as I used Psychic Reformation as soon as it was available for the character by level, and worked back from there, then forward each time and seperately during each level progession as exp. and level allowed-- so u have to calculate 3 times for each reformed feat: (just as the power Psychic Reformation reads in the srd link I provided ) Once for the original, once for the change and then backwards again as to the present feat minus the original all according to what level an or experience would allow while not losing enough exp to lose a level. (this will require you to study the power psychic reformation in detail, as well as level and exp of the character per level once the required level was reached, not forgetting to balance level requirements for feats/ powers, to enable this progression to work. I can write it all out for you but it might take me like a week of writing to post step by step 
...I pray that you can see how everything works just from looking up the power Psychic Reformation .
3) No Spellfire is not a per day thing. Please refer to player's guide to Faerun for all your "spellfire" answers. Please refer to the links I provided in my character sheets to answer all your other questions since I can only imagine them getting more complicated from here.
If you click on the feats and powers I have "linked" so you can follow how I got everything and where I did everything from. It took me quite a bit of time just to "re-look" over my character to see what I did and recheck how everything works. I guess it will take you quite a bit of time, as well, since it's taking me so much time (and I'm the one who made it 
-- it must have taken me forever to figure out and come up with this character).
4) tiluvias: very nice summary thanks from all of us wish I could summarize Mem's mechanics 2 u as efficiently
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since the character sheet explains everything as well as I could.I can...repeat... but since the character took like 2 weeks of almost full time work, I don't know how much of this you would like to hear. I will put my answers in the most general terms, I can answer them one by one Cog, but if you Tiluvias look up the character itself along with all the links and posts provided, it would save me some time for "in character posting" since we posted up the character's mechanics with all relavent links long long ago
.1) Yes, the prision is under the Citadel. It is not another building. The Citadel was once an Arena. It now serves as HQ, Prison, hideout, Barracks for the city and harbor guards of our quarter, office, sleeping quarters, meeting hall etc...--everything we need--except the money to keep it running.
Quote "She has prepared the guards well, from yesterday’s early evening, every room and halls of the Citadel alight with burning volcanic emissions torches every ten feet, every able soldier on full alert, weapons in hand, watches substituted by the quarter hour—and this was the day.
The humans could hardly understand the sternness of beautiful giant’s ways. Weren’t they at peace? But with one look, none in a thousand had much thought of asking. Like a titan of old, she sits back, the stadium a great hearth, thinking on what others would name a throne; she had meditated, but not slept.
Ingeniously tempered from volcanic networks structured far below the Citadel, the huge “Eternal flame of Gladiators” smolders a harsh crimson in the center of the arena; its heat reflects tenderly against Mem’s brow but does not warm her. There was never time to sleep it seemed. There was only time for change. "
2) tiluvias: yes, that is correct, just as spellfire the feat reads.
3) Quote "Also, for the Resculpt Mind feat, how are you doing that? Considering that, first off, Psionic Combat Modes don't exist, and that Mem is taking it as a flaw at level 1 when the Pre-Reqs require Manifester Level 3.Also, Infused Contruction requires a ML of 6, and you're taking it for your 1st and 5th level Eruidite feats. And for your 3 and 5 level Resculpt feats. And you can't get a bonus feat from Resculpt Mind at 1st level in order to take Quicken Power, even if you could take Resculpt Mind"
Answer: Psychic Reformation (Though it might take you about 2 hours to see how everything fits together since it was done over a 2 week period, as I used Psychic Reformation as soon as it was available for the character by level, and worked back from there, then forward each time and seperately during each level progession as exp. and level allowed-- so u have to calculate 3 times for each reformed feat: (just as the power Psychic Reformation reads in the srd link I provided
) Once for the original, once for the change and then backwards again as to the present feat minus the original all according to what level an or experience would allow while not losing enough exp to lose a level. (this will require you to study the power psychic reformation in detail, as well as level and exp of the character per level once the required level was reached, not forgetting to balance level requirements for feats/ powers, to enable this progression to work. I can write it all out for you but it might take me like a week of writing to post step by step ...I pray that you can see how everything works just from looking up the power Psychic Reformation .3) No Spellfire is not a per day thing. Please refer to player's guide to Faerun for all your "spellfire" answers
. Please refer to the links I provided in my character sheets to answer all your other questions since I can only imagine them getting more complicated from here. If you click on the feats and powers I have "linked" so you can follow how I got everything and where I did everything from. It took me quite a bit of time just to "re-look" over my character to see what I did and recheck how everything works
. I guess it will take you quite a bit of time, as well, since it's taking me so much time (and I'm the one who made it -- it must have taken me forever to figure out and come up with this character). 4) tiluvias: very nice summary thanks from all of us
wish I could summarize Mem's mechanics 2 u as efficiently [/sblock]
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cog_and_taz
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[SBLOCK=OOC]thanks for all the answers ink, and welcome back ryfte. My advice from now on is not to count on anything but checking here regularly, and everything should finally start moving. It seems like some of this spellfire stuff is pretty over the top, I'm going to have to take another look at that.[/SBLOCK]
tiluvias99
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[sblock=Some Rules Questions.]Alright, I don't want to be an annoying Rules Lawyer, but I don't understand a few things.
But still, which "that" is correct? About being able to completely ignore spells, immediately discharge them and damage your oppponent (and deal more damage the more spells you ignore), and be essentially immune to spells unless you get hit with 18+ spell levels per round?
....Can Irthos have Spellfire Wielder?
edit: Oops, nevermind, Irthos doesn't have a Con score
I do have the XPH. I don't have any problem with you using Psychic Reformation and not losing a level, the probem was you using to gain feats which you wouldn't have the Pre-Reqs for. I don't think the power allows you to do that. The Infused Construction feat requires a ML of 6, and thus, you can't take it until you have a ML of 6. Hence the confusion about you using Psychic Reformation to gain this feat at levels 1,5, and three times from Resclupt Mind, which I can only assume are at levels 3, 5, and 7 (7 wouldn't be a problem though, just the 3 and 5 levels).
On Reculpt Mind:
-You also apparently used Psychic Reformation to gain Resculpt Mind at level one, when it requires a ML of 3 to take.
-And you said that you got a Bonus Feat (in this case, Quicken Power) from a bonus feat gained from Resculpt mind at level 1, when Resculpt Mind specifically states levels 3, 5, 7, 9, and 11.
-And you used the bonus feats from Resculpt Mind to takle Infused Construction, which is not a MetaPsionic feat, only a Psionic Feat. Metapsionic feats are things like Quicken Power, Maximize Power, etc. This is in addition to the fact that you couldn't even take Infused Construction at most of those levels due to the Pre-Reqs.
-And then, the most imporatant issue, is that I don't Resculpt Mind can even work with 3.5. The feat states that you get a new Psionic Feat whenever you gain a new Psionic Combat mode, and, since Psionic Combat modes no longer exist in 3.5, you would never actually get any free feats from this.
Come to think of it, just one last question: When Cog said you could learn new powers as a Erudite, and said you could learn new Magic Spells as well, is he letting you learn both Arcane and Divine spells? And are you still required to have the components of those spells, or are they treated like Psionic Powers in that you can cast them all in armor and such?
Is Cog allowing you to learn spells if the same thing already exists as a Psionic Power?
Are you still paying the 20xp per Eruidite level to learn any new powers beyond the 2 you gain at every level?
edit: One more thing, while I'm on topic. How did Es get the Phrenic Template? Did it increase the cost for the Construct?
It'd help a lot of you could link the Nimble Wright Construct SRD excerpt too.
Sorry to go off on a tangent; I don't mean to draw away from the campaign. I just wanted to double check some things that I don't really understand. If you see anything weird with Irthos, feel free to point it out.[/sblock]
See, I don't have the PGtF. Your description is a little vague, and when I clicked on the link, it provided even less information, considering I don't have MoF either.
But still, which "that" is correct? About being able to completely ignore spells, immediately discharge them and damage your oppponent (and deal more damage the more spells you ignore), and be essentially immune to spells unless you get hit with 18+ spell levels per round?
....Can Irthos have Spellfire Wielder?
edit: Oops, nevermind, Irthos doesn't have a Con score
I do have the XPH. I don't have any problem with you using Psychic Reformation and not losing a level, the probem was you using to gain feats which you wouldn't have the Pre-Reqs for. I don't think the power allows you to do that. The Infused Construction feat requires a ML of 6, and thus, you can't take it until you have a ML of 6. Hence the confusion about you using Psychic Reformation to gain this feat at levels 1,5, and three times from Resclupt Mind, which I can only assume are at levels 3, 5, and 7 (7 wouldn't be a problem though, just the 3 and 5 levels).
On Reculpt Mind:
-You also apparently used Psychic Reformation to gain Resculpt Mind at level one, when it requires a ML of 3 to take.
-And you said that you got a Bonus Feat (in this case, Quicken Power) from a bonus feat gained from Resculpt mind at level 1, when Resculpt Mind specifically states levels 3, 5, 7, 9, and 11.
-And you used the bonus feats from Resculpt Mind to takle Infused Construction, which is not a MetaPsionic feat, only a Psionic Feat. Metapsionic feats are things like Quicken Power, Maximize Power, etc. This is in addition to the fact that you couldn't even take Infused Construction at most of those levels due to the Pre-Reqs.
-And then, the most imporatant issue, is that I don't Resculpt Mind can even work with 3.5. The feat states that you get a new Psionic Feat whenever you gain a new Psionic Combat mode, and, since Psionic Combat modes no longer exist in 3.5, you would never actually get any free feats from this.
Come to think of it, just one last question: When Cog said you could learn new powers as a Erudite, and said you could learn new Magic Spells as well, is he letting you learn both Arcane and Divine spells? And are you still required to have the components of those spells, or are they treated like Psionic Powers in that you can cast them all in armor and such?
Is Cog allowing you to learn spells if the same thing already exists as a Psionic Power?
Are you still paying the 20xp per Eruidite level to learn any new powers beyond the 2 you gain at every level?
edit: One more thing, while I'm on topic. How did Es get the Phrenic Template? Did it increase the cost for the Construct?
It'd help a lot of you could link the Nimble Wright Construct SRD excerpt too.
Sorry to go off on a tangent; I don't mean to draw away from the campaign. I just wanted to double check some things that I don't really understand. If you see anything weird with Irthos, feel free to point it out.[/sblock]
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cog_and_taz
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[SBLOCK=OOC]Thanks for the help tiluvias. If at any point I allowed free divine/arcane access for mem, I take that back right now unless there is a very good reason.[/SBLOCK]
cog_and_taz
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[SBLOCK=OOC]...anyone there? In any case, I will be gone for the next 2/3 days...[/SBLOCK]
