Saves End w No Action?
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Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
It's quite entertaining.Ahglock said:
It's also quite over-the-top. But it's too entertaining for me to worry.
On the topic: I would certainly allow the character to spend an action to try to put out the flames. Maybe: Take a move action and a dex/acrobatics check (DC 15?). if you succeed, the fire is put out, otherwise you get one extra save.
WhatGravitas
Explorer
I like that.Mustrum_Ridcully said:
Saves give me the feeling that they're (mostly) reflexive - trying to pat out the fire, because it's hot, not to give in to the compulsion, because your mind doesn't like that... stuff you do automatically, hence the non-level dependant mechanics, they're just reflexes, and these are basically hardwired into you - hard to improve (perhaps by feats?).
If you actively try to do something, like putting the flames out by doing something, you can draw upon your experiences and what you have learned - i.e. your 1/2 level bonus to skills and co.
Cheers, LT.
Nightchilde-2
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Voss said:
Oh no! 4e is now an action movie!
First, casting a spell might be easier than swinging a sword.
Second, being on fire hurts, even if it is just a small portion of your clothing on fire, however, I can tell you that people can easily ignore pain in life or death situations. Action movies might take it to some extremes, but when you have people/critters trying to kill you, minor inconviences like pain are way down the survival priority list.
Second, being on fire hurts, even if it is just a small portion of your clothing on fire, however, I can tell you that people can easily ignore pain in life or death situations. Action movies might take it to some extremes, but when you have people/critters trying to kill you, minor inconviences like pain are way down the survival priority list.
Thornir Alekeg
Albatross!
I disagree. John McCLane would put the fire on himself out by stopping and dropping one of the bad guys, then rolling over him to smother the flames.Ahglock said:
DM_Blake
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Ahglock said:
This is what makes the Die Hard series as good as it is.
John McClane is a tough, lucky SOB, but pain does hurt him, it slows him down, makes him limp. He gets bloodier and hurteder (yeah, I know) as the movie(s) go on.
But he fights through the pain.
Unlike many other, less realistic (yeah I know) movies where other heroes take a beating and shrug it off like it never happened.
Fallen Seraph said:Oh please, McClane would so be a pirate.
This also reminds me of the ultimate internet-busting question my friend and I made up:
Who would win?
A Alien-Pirate-Piloting a Gundam (my side) or A Predator-Ninja-Piloting a Evangelion (his side)
Wait...can a Gundam even get through an Eva's AT field? I wouldn't have thought so...yet with the lance, an Eva could surely take out a Gundam at a really long range.
But, that aside, having actually been on fire and not realizing it at first, I can assure you that it is possible to go about your business as though you were not on fire. Of course, if you are wearing something decently flamable (line a t-shirt), the situation will get worse to the point where it is rather unignorable.
However, in heavy cloths or armor, it is probably not the stuff next to your skin that is alight, but rather your cloak or the pouch on your belt or your bedroll. That wouldn't be too distracting or damaging right off. Especially if the fire source is still there (bonfire, goblin gernaders, a red dragon, etc.).
The difference is rather similar that between "I am smoldering a bit and there might be some flames still lingering, but it's not an active fire" and "OMG! AAHHHH!!!!"
A little bit of patting and such takes care of the first. The second...better hope there is a lake about...or a white dragon.
