Secondary attacks

[Mahali]

If a power says that you can make a secondary (or tertiary, etc.) attack with a weapon, does that mean the same weapon that you made the primary attack with?

All the powers I can think of are must weild "light blade, heavy blade" ect...

So all attacks are with the weapon you must be weilding or it specifies that the subsequent attacks are with the off-hand weapon you must be weilding to use the power.

What power(s) do you have questions about?

 

[cmbarona]

Well, first I'll point out that I was throwing that in to clarify a technical point. Doctor Proctor quoted the feat's entry, but it seemed as if one or more poster was still treating drawing with Quick Draw as a Free Action when it is not.

After that point, I'll now move to my interpretation of that clarified point, which is of course debateable.

I think it could imply a number of possible things:

1) You must draw "before" the attack actually occurs. I consider most actions to happen in snap-shots. For example, Twin Strike is two attacks, but still a single standard action. There is no "first" and "second" attack because that implies a sequence of attacks. They happen simultaneously. Likewise, attacks that have a "secondary" attack are still part of the same single standard action. You need to have a weapon drawn before you can attack with it, so all weapons must be drawn prior to all "attacks."

2) Alternatively, drawing in the middle of an action is still part of that action. It's not inserting a free action in the middle of things. In fact, it seems Quick Draw allows one to draw weapons at any point in an attack; for example, attack with a versatile weapon two-handed for one attack (switching grips is a free action, I believe), then quick draw for an off-hand weapon for a secondary attack.

3) As for "inserting" damage from item powers, I guess that does indeed imply that free actions like those can, indeed be inserted in the middle of an attack.

 

[gizmo33]

All the powers I can think of are must weild "light blade, heavy blade" ect...

So all attacks are with the weapon you must be weilding or it specifies that the subsequent attacks are with the off-hand weapon you must be weilding to use the power.

What power(s) do you have questions about?

I'm not quite sure what your first two sentences are meant to clarify - I think it's a more certain thing to say that the secondary attack must be with a weapon that qualifies for the use of the power. So if the power is light blade only, then you wouldn't be able to use a heavy blade in your secondary attack. Assume that the character using the power is actually wielding a weapon that qualifies for the power in each hand.

To answer your last question: Any power with a weapon keyword that allows you to make a secondary attack would qualify. As an example - take Guarded Attack (level 1 attack, Martial Powers) and you're using a flaming rapier and a frost dagger and you can use two daily magic item powers (because you're paragon or whatever). Can, in one round, I use both daily powers and hit with each of the weapon's seperately as a result of using Guarded Attack? If you answer the question for Guarded Attack, I think the same answer would apply to the other powers in this category.