D&D 5E Self sufficiency

[Calion]

No, he just blocked you. And this post makes it clear why; I would too. Do not call other members names, please. Don't post in this thread again.

I think calling someone names after they've blocked you is warranted. You'll notice I did no such thing before that.

 

[Caliban]

Publicly arguing with a Moderator.

"It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them!"

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[Morrus]

I think calling someone names after they've blocked you is warranted. You'll notice I did no such thing before that.

I'm sorry you think that, but you're misinformed. There's exactly zero circumstances where calling somebody a "moron" and an "idiot" are appropriate on EN World. There is an equal number of situations where arguing with a moderator is acceptable. I will repeat: do not post in this thread again.

 

[LordEntrails]

People are so funny. I know why you don't want to talk anymore: You know you're wrong and there's no way you could construct a dwelling and lifestyle that would be equivalent to Comfortable in two weeks, and don't want to admit it. And so you and Sacrosanct run away instead of debating what I think is actually the point of disagreement: How long characters are expected to maintain this lifestyle.

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I do not lie. Implying I do is OFFENSIVE.
We refuse to discuss this further with you because of this attitude you have.

 

[Istbor]

To answer a question, without quoting the person who asked it, who is as well unable to post in this thread again.

Yes. Yes, I do believe maintenance out in the wilds is perfectly reasonable. The thought that you travel without such provisions when your life depends on armor or weapons, you lack some basic knowledge and materials to keep your gear intact is strange.

Will there be damage that you need a professional with additional skill and equipment to mend? Sure, but not what I think is the typical occurrence.

 

[Saeviomagy]

To answer a question, without quoting the person who asked it, who is as well unable to post in this thread again.

Yes. Yes, I do believe maintenance out in the wilds is perfectly reasonable. The thought that you travel without such provisions when your life depends on armor or weapons, you lack some basic knowledge and materials to keep your gear intact is strange.

Will there be damage that you need a professional with additional skill and equipment to mend? Sure, but not what I think is the typical occurrence.

The question then is why should someone in a city not be equally able to maintain their gear, especially when according to the lifestyle rules, someone in a city is apparently LESS able to construct a secure shelter and therefore more reliant on their armaments?

 

[Sacrosanct]

The question then is why should someone in a city not be equally able to maintain their gear, especially when according to the lifestyle rules, someone in a city is apparently LESS able to construct a secure shelter and therefore more reliant on their armaments?

I think they can, if they put in the effort to learn. It's a matter of necessity. A woodsman has to have those skills, because no one else is around. Living in the city? It's easy enough to get someone specialized to do it for you.

It's like anything else. How many people living in the city know how to can their own food? Or replace their own roof? Or do moderate maintenance on their cars? Heck, or even cook a real meal? Living in the city now, I can tell you not many. Now ask that question about the country people and that number goes way up. Everyone I knew growing up on a farm knew those things. It's not that city people don't have the intelligence or capability to do it, they just don't need to do it, so those skills go unused and a specialist usually does all of those things. I know this is purely anecdotal, but having spent half my life out in the country, and half my life in the city, it seems city people spend WAY more time playing video games, on the internet, and watching TV than country people do. But it's not because they are lazier or whatever. It's because most city jobs are 8-10 hours a day and you're done so you have that time. Growing up on a farm, you worked 12-14 hours a day, so you didn't have as much time. Lord knows now that I'm a software analyst in the suburbs, I have a lot more time than when I was back on the farm. Ironically, I spend most of that free time working on my garden lol.

Also, I can tell you from first hand experience that living out in the middle of nowhere you have this attitude of taking care of your gear like your life depends on it, because sometimes it does. Compare to the city, where it's easy enough to just drive down to ACE hardware and get a new one. So by simple matter of necessity, preventative maintenance is critical for the woodsman.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Also, I thought I'd share this (I follow this guy, and he's got a lot of good information). I think it does a great job illustrating how a bushcrafter/survivalist/woodsman can and will have many of the items you might not think they do. It's not because a city person can't do any of this, but it's something that they probably don't even think about. For example, if I gave you a knife and that's it, and wanted you to split a log to make a bench and table, do you know how to do that? (use the knife to make a wooden mallet and carve wooden wedges, and use those to split the log). or if all you had was a rope and that's it, and I said to make a winch, would you know how? I guess the point I'm trying to make is to not make assumptions about what a woodsman will and won't have, or how comfortable or uncomfortable they have it, because unless you've got a lot of experience and/or knowledge around those kinds of people, you're probably missing out on a lot of things they do in fact know/have. So if you've got the time, these sets of videos will show you just some of the many examples, and may surprise you.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_fotv96EswcvokBDiUBTfVDKPR8idSE8