Sept 2nd News - I wont be doing Scales of War

[Fenes]

Pointless exchange again. Time to ignore.

 

[Goumindong]

And your arguments consist of "you have no argument, you are wrong." Once again, Ive gone over why I consider the reason for not wanting to spoil the AP to be not valid. Perhaps if you've read the thread like you claim you'd find it. Ive given my reasons, as such my opinion is valid. Its not my fault you cant find them. All Im getting from you is you ffer your OPINIONS (not facts) for your arguments and they are valid, but I offer my OPINIONS (not facts) for my argument and my opinion isn't valid? How does that work anyway?

I am sorry, this is simply not true. I do not need to make a value judgment on the process in order to be right. All i need to do is show that you can make a value judgment in the manner prescribed. I do not need to make a claim of the value of the reasons.

In order for your statements to be true, you need to show how said value judgments cannot produce the results you claim. You have given opinion to that fact but you have not produced argument or evidence. You have simply given your value judgment and said that it is the only one that can exist.

Here is an example of what is happening.

Someone is having a birthday and they decide to serve yellow cake. Now, you come along and say "no, you must serve chocolate cake". Some other guy comes along and says, "he can serve whatever cake he wants, there are valid reasons for serving yellow cake and here are some", he then proceeds to give you some reasons for serving yellow cake and no one refutes that those may be valid.

You may like chocolate cake, but unless there is no valid reason for serving yellow cake you are wrong to claim his decision is stupid, only that you would have liked something else since it only consists of a value judgment. This holds true for pretty much any product ever sold. "They aren't producing mauve Jettas? Blasphemy!". No, its not.

I can't and wont legitimize your nerd rage regarding this issue.

 

[Wicht]

Mmm... cake

 

[SkidAce]

Mmm... cake

I like cheesecake.

 

[El Mahdi]

I can't and wont legitimize your nerd rage regarding this issue.

Yet continuing the argument doesn't do just that? Hhhhhmmmmmm.

 

[El Mahdi]

Mmm... cake

I like cheesecake.

With a mug of hot chocolate. And those little marshmallows in it.

 

[Set]

What's with all this 'spoiler' nonsense anyway?

I've probably played Keep on the Borderlands a half dozen times and Against the Giants at least twice. It didn't get any less fun.

I also watch movies, like the Matrix and the Crow, multiple times, and knowing how they end doesn't 'spoil' them for me. I suspect that the vast majority of people who paid good money to see Titanic knew that the boat was going to sink. Ditto for the shock ending of The Passion of the Christ, which was 'spoiled' a couple thousand years ago...

I've been running the Freeport trilogy lately, and knowing the ending of the story helped me to tweak some encounters in the first adventure, so that they more properly foreshadowed some clues that would be dropped in the third adventure. If I had no idea what was going on in the third adventure, there's no way I could have tightened that part up, and the 'clue' would have been inconsistent with what was presented in the first adventure, and possibly led the players *away* from their objective, rather than steered them towards it!

If I'm gonna GM something, I'm darn well gonna know what I'm doing!

And if I'm playing something that I'm familiar with, I'm a grown up, and having been in this bed before isn't going to prevent me from enjoying a fun ride, just because I know how it's gonna end.

 

[Wonka]

I am sorry, this is simply not true. I do not need to make a value judgment on the process in order to be right. All i need to do is show that you can make a value judgment in the manner prescribed. I do not need to make a claim of the value of the reasons.

In order for your statements to be true, you need to show how said value judgments cannot produce the results you claim. You have given opinion to that fact but you have not produced argument or evidence. You have simply given your value judgment and said that it is the only one that can exist.

Here, hows this work. Their value judgment (withholding the overview to not spoil it for players which you are claiming) hinders my ability to run the AP. Therefore the value judgments cannot produce the results of me properly running the AP.

Id also like to point out at NO point have you offered anything other than opinion, so once again, you are making a hypocrite of yourself.

Here is an example of what is happening.

Someone is having a birthday and they decide to serve yellow cake. Now, you come along and say "no, you must serve chocolate cake". Some other guy comes along and says, "he can serve whatever cake he wants, there are valid reasons for serving yellow cake and here are some", he then proceeds to give you some reasons for serving yellow cake and no one refutes that those may be valid.

You may like chocolate cake, but unless there is no valid reason for serving yellow cake you are wrong to claim his decision is stupid, only that you would have liked something else since it only consists of a value judgment. This holds true for pretty much any product ever sold. "They aren't producing mauve Jettas? Blasphemy!". No, its not.

I can't and wont legitimize your nerd rage regarding this issue.

Yeah. This is so not what I'm talking about. You analogy here does NOT relate to the argument I am making at all. It seems you really don't understand where I am coming from. My "nerd rage" as you call it, stems from your inability to comprehend my arguments, and to twist them around to suit your arguments. If what you describe me doing is "nerd rage" I have no choice bu to label your defense "WoTC fan boism". See, I can throw out random stuff too and claim it as fact! Therefore, I am done trying to explain myself to you. Consider this my last (for real this time) response to you. Tell yourself you won, I don't care. Im perfectly fine with my opnion that you have no idea what you are talkin about. Good day to you sir.

Besides, everyone knows the cake is a lie.

 

[Rel]

Guomindong and Wonka, you are no longer allowed to talk to each other in this thread.

 

[Wonka]

No problem, I'm done.