Shards of the Silve Flame -- OOC thread
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stonegod
Spawn of Khyber/LEB Judge
Summary: How everyone knows (or doesn't know) everyone
Just to summarize, if I follow all the posts correctly:
- Hariel has a passing aquaintance with "Xxxx" (I assume that is a placeholder) and may have crossed paths with Oswin during their professional careers. Hariel met the Lord Reverend through her guardwork (and may have been involved in getting her there in the first place).
- Saalin may have crossed paths with Oswin while he was in Thailos (assuming he was still born there). Saalin and the Lord Reverened became aquainted through a mutual contact (Lycia).
- It is unclear to me how Oswin made contact with Alistair, unless it was through his mentor Berrik or during his training (or afterward missions). He may have crossed paths with Hariel or Saalin relatively easily.
- Drue has no recorded mention of contact with the other characters, though is itinerant nature fits will with Brother Dain's (they could have crossed paths while the former was investigating a Church and the latter was documenting it). It is possible he may have heard of/met Saalin after hearing of a "Aundarian-traitor" giving succor to both sides in Thailost. It is in Drue's character to background-check people he will potentially work with.
- Like Drue's, Brother Dain's background has no specific mention of the other character or Alistair. I mentioned a possibility of Drue/Dain possibilty crossing paths. A similar investigation by Dain (possibily looking at the estabilishment of the first Flamist Church in Thaliost) could explain a potential meeting with Saalin.
- "Xxxxx", being the most sheltered, has the least potential for knowing the PCs direclty unless she met them while they visited or heard of them through her uncle. She, however, has the best contact with our patron.
That summarize everything effectively?
Just to summarize, if I follow all the posts correctly:
- Hariel has a passing aquaintance with "Xxxx" (I assume that is a placeholder) and may have crossed paths with Oswin during their professional careers. Hariel met the Lord Reverend through her guardwork (and may have been involved in getting her there in the first place).
- Saalin may have crossed paths with Oswin while he was in Thailos (assuming he was still born there). Saalin and the Lord Reverened became aquainted through a mutual contact (Lycia).
- It is unclear to me how Oswin made contact with Alistair, unless it was through his mentor Berrik or during his training (or afterward missions). He may have crossed paths with Hariel or Saalin relatively easily.
- Drue has no recorded mention of contact with the other characters, though is itinerant nature fits will with Brother Dain's (they could have crossed paths while the former was investigating a Church and the latter was documenting it). It is possible he may have heard of/met Saalin after hearing of a "Aundarian-traitor" giving succor to both sides in Thailost. It is in Drue's character to background-check people he will potentially work with.
- Like Drue's, Brother Dain's background has no specific mention of the other character or Alistair. I mentioned a possibility of Drue/Dain possibilty crossing paths. A similar investigation by Dain (possibily looking at the estabilishment of the first Flamist Church in Thaliost) could explain a potential meeting with Saalin.
- "Xxxxx", being the most sheltered, has the least potential for knowing the PCs direclty unless she met them while they visited or heard of them through her uncle. She, however, has the best contact with our patron.
That summarize everything effectively?
Anax
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That sounds about right by my reckoning of what’s been said. Note that if we’ve all been involved with work for Lord Alistair before (which it sounds to me like drothgery is aiming for?) there’s the potential that we’ve all made at least a passing acquaintance with each other by now. I’ve mentioned Xxxx (and yes, that’s a placeholder) and Oswin because I have ideas of interactions past “People I once met in the hall after talking with Lord Alistair”.
I get the feeling that drothgery wants to avoid initial intra-party distrust, and some reason for us to be familiar with each others’ abilities. (I myself find that this is always a good thing to aim for.) On the other hand, I think that there’s more leeway here than there might be in a more traditional setup... If we’re all acquainted with Lord Alistair, we already have reason to trust individuals he might introduce us to.
There is, of course, always the chance for secret backgrounds to come up during the course of play—and I think it’s clear that this is going to happen in this campaign, somewhere along the line. But that’s different from “several adventurers meet in a tavern, instantly become bosom friends, and rush off to slay evil together.”
That’s one reason I absolutely want to have some personal history and like for Xxxx, too.
Whee. Anyway, I’d love to add more detail to my acquaintance with anybody else. I’m just a lot less sure of what folks besides Oswin and Xxxx are like—and I feel like I’ve probably already trod on enough toes in suggesting Hari’s past interactions with those two as it is. (Like I said before, I tend to be a bit pushy with my ideas, so please do push back if you don’t like something I’ve suggested.)
I get the feeling that drothgery wants to avoid initial intra-party distrust, and some reason for us to be familiar with each others’ abilities. (I myself find that this is always a good thing to aim for.) On the other hand, I think that there’s more leeway here than there might be in a more traditional setup... If we’re all acquainted with Lord Alistair, we already have reason to trust individuals he might introduce us to.
There is, of course, always the chance for secret backgrounds to come up during the course of play—and I think it’s clear that this is going to happen in this campaign, somewhere along the line. But that’s different from “several adventurers meet in a tavern, instantly become bosom friends, and rush off to slay evil together.”
That’s one reason I absolutely want to have some personal history and like for Xxxx, too.Whee. Anyway, I’d love to add more detail to my acquaintance with anybody else. I’m just a lot less sure of what folks besides Oswin and Xxxx are like—and I feel like I’ve probably already trod on enough toes in suggesting Hari’s past interactions with those two as it is. (Like I said before, I tend to be a bit pushy with my ideas, so please do push back if you don’t like something I’ve suggested.)
ShaggySpellsword
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Okay-Oswin is going to be from Thaliost, so there would probably have been some situation where he had a chance to meet and even work with Saalin. Oswin's mentor, Berrik, was working with Allistair in the project that gave simple poor streetrats military snd religious training-Oswin first met Lord Allistair and Hariel there. After completing his training Oswin has worked around much of Thrane doing a variety of different things for the church-Inquisitive, Counter-Spy, and Holy Warrior. In his work he has had to develop contacts that know what is what in different cities, and have helped him with certain tasks in the past, for the good of the church. Lord Allistair has taken on the role of giving Oz missions in the past, and giving him some aid when his other mission bring him to Flamekeep. Some of the other PCs could have been past contacts/aid working with me in my handful of years since becoming an agent for the Theocracy. Any takers?
Dave, as for how Brother Dain can be connected to Alistair... You mentioned that he has split most of his adult life between Flamekeep and his ancestral holdings near the Thrane/Karrnath border. Would anything in or near his ancestral holdings have been potential targets during the war? I ask because I see two possible scenarios for how Dain met him...
1) One of the times that Dain temporarily dropped his research to come to aid in the defence of a church or monastery under attack, it could have turned out that the property either belonged to Alistair or was located near some of his property. If Alistair himself was there at the time, a lone monk coming to give aid likely would have been brought to his attention. If he was not there at the time, a report mentioning Dain's aid still might have been given to him.
Either way, Alistair might have decided that he wanted to meet this monk and offer his thanks. And since he has ancestral holdings near the border and carries rank, he would be a prime interview candidate for Dain's research. I imagine that someone with Alistair's background and rank would be intrigued by a monk who is attempting to objectively document border disputes, yet who drops everything to come to the defence of one particular side of the War. Dain is a proud citizen of Thrane and a tithing member of the Church (something else that would probably pique Alistair's interest). As such, it is quite a contrast for him to state that he is being objective in his research. I am sure that some portion of this would appeal to Alistair's eccentric nature.
2) Dain may have become aware of one of Alistair's periodic visits to his ancestral holdings. Given the man's rank and background, Dain would become quite interested in getting his view of the border disputes for his research. He would petition for an audience, and presumably it would be granted. From there, this would proceed pretty much the same as the above, just without the battle at the beginning.
Once they got to know one another, Alistair would likely come to view Brother Dain as someone who can be counted on. He is a loyal Thranish citizen, and he pays a hefty tithe to the Church. From their discussions on his research, it would become apparent that Dain can take care of himself and get done what needs to be done. And of course, I am certain that Alistair would have also done his own background check, and would know Dain's complete history.
Either of the above would help take care of how Dain knows Alistair. But I am at a bit of a loss as to how Dain would know the rest of the characters. Due to his research, Dain has spent nearly his entire life around the Thrane/Karrnath border. He would, however, come to Flamekeep is summoned there. Particularly if the summons came from Alistair.
So aside from the possibility of Dain and Drue crossing paths while visiting the same church near the border, the most likely scenario for Dain to know the other characters is to have worked together with them on some task for Alistair previously, either all at once or different characters at different times. Can Dave give more detail as to what Alistair has had us do in the past? Or should we just take it at value that we have all worked together before for Alistair and that we all know and trust one another by now?
1) One of the times that Dain temporarily dropped his research to come to aid in the defence of a church or monastery under attack, it could have turned out that the property either belonged to Alistair or was located near some of his property. If Alistair himself was there at the time, a lone monk coming to give aid likely would have been brought to his attention. If he was not there at the time, a report mentioning Dain's aid still might have been given to him.
Either way, Alistair might have decided that he wanted to meet this monk and offer his thanks. And since he has ancestral holdings near the border and carries rank, he would be a prime interview candidate for Dain's research. I imagine that someone with Alistair's background and rank would be intrigued by a monk who is attempting to objectively document border disputes, yet who drops everything to come to the defence of one particular side of the War. Dain is a proud citizen of Thrane and a tithing member of the Church (something else that would probably pique Alistair's interest). As such, it is quite a contrast for him to state that he is being objective in his research. I am sure that some portion of this would appeal to Alistair's eccentric nature.
2) Dain may have become aware of one of Alistair's periodic visits to his ancestral holdings. Given the man's rank and background, Dain would become quite interested in getting his view of the border disputes for his research. He would petition for an audience, and presumably it would be granted. From there, this would proceed pretty much the same as the above, just without the battle at the beginning.
Once they got to know one another, Alistair would likely come to view Brother Dain as someone who can be counted on. He is a loyal Thranish citizen, and he pays a hefty tithe to the Church. From their discussions on his research, it would become apparent that Dain can take care of himself and get done what needs to be done. And of course, I am certain that Alistair would have also done his own background check, and would know Dain's complete history.
Either of the above would help take care of how Dain knows Alistair. But I am at a bit of a loss as to how Dain would know the rest of the characters. Due to his research, Dain has spent nearly his entire life around the Thrane/Karrnath border. He would, however, come to Flamekeep is summoned there. Particularly if the summons came from Alistair.
So aside from the possibility of Dain and Drue crossing paths while visiting the same church near the border, the most likely scenario for Dain to know the other characters is to have worked together with them on some task for Alistair previously, either all at once or different characters at different times. Can Dave give more detail as to what Alistair has had us do in the past? Or should we just take it at value that we have all worked together before for Alistair and that we all know and trust one another by now?
There are a lot of things that Lord Alistair has hired independent adventurers for
1) Gathering information about people (which sometimes were corrupt clergymen, other times agents of foreign powers, still other times agents of the great evils of Eberron -- and at those times sometimes not what they appeared to be, and at other times apparently upstanding individuals; in the last case it wasn't always clear whether Lord Alistair was trying to clear someone or if he suspected something but couldn't prove it).
2) Gathering information about places or things with connections to supernatural power.
3) Retrieving items of power that were in remote dungeons/ruined castles, or in the possession of enemies of Thrane and/or the Silver Flame.
4) Destroying enclaves of supernatural evil creatures. The last has been more common in the last two years, as he hasn't been able to get the Church to fund a large garrison in the district he's theocrat of.
It's quite possible that you all have different ideas on what Lord Alistair's truly interested in; one of you could think he's primarily working against the Blood of Vol, while another could think his attentions are mostly focused within the Church.
1) Gathering information about people (which sometimes were corrupt clergymen, other times agents of foreign powers, still other times agents of the great evils of Eberron -- and at those times sometimes not what they appeared to be, and at other times apparently upstanding individuals; in the last case it wasn't always clear whether Lord Alistair was trying to clear someone or if he suspected something but couldn't prove it).
2) Gathering information about places or things with connections to supernatural power.
3) Retrieving items of power that were in remote dungeons/ruined castles, or in the possession of enemies of Thrane and/or the Silver Flame.
4) Destroying enclaves of supernatural evil creatures. The last has been more common in the last two years, as he hasn't been able to get the Church to fund a large garrison in the district he's theocrat of.
It's quite possible that you all have different ideas on what Lord Alistair's truly interested in; one of you could think he's primarily working against the Blood of Vol, while another could think his attentions are mostly focused within the Church.
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