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Shield spell

Mikhail

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Hi. We've had an interesting question pop up regarding the use of the shield spell. Last night, this happened:

Scene: Sorcerer is in the center square of a map. To the north, south, east and west he has opponents. That leaves NW, NE, SW, SE spaces open. He has shield spell running, oriented along the east-west axis to protect him from the opponent in the north space.

It's his turn and he decides to run for it. Using a free action, he reorients the sheild diagonally along the NW-SE line. In his current position, that would protect him from the opponents to the north and east. He runs SW. Now, since he is only running away, the space he starts on (the center space) is considered not threatened, so no AOO. He is now on the SW space. The shield is still oriented on the NW-SE line, so now, in addition to protecting him from the attackers on the North and East space, he is also protected from the attackers on West and South. (You may have to draw this one out).

Now, according to sage advise, (and the PHb), the shield spell provides enough cover that your opponents cannot take an AOO if the shield protects you from them. So, the sorcerer can continue his run without fear of taking an AOO from any of his opponents. He continues to move SW and gets back 30' at which time he casts Ice Storm and kills all four of his opponents.

Two questions. First, does this assessment seem correct? Second, does this seem excessive for a first level spell? The shield spell lasts 1 min/level (basically the entire battle), protects against AOO's, adds 7 to your AC, protects from magic missile and can be oriented in any direction the caster wants. Wow. We've been thinking of getting rid of the protection against AOO's. Have any of you done this? How did it work out?

Thanks...
 

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Clearly an error was made in not allowing AOO's in the first space of movement, if the wizard also cast an ice storm later in the round. AOOs in the first space are banned only if "all you do is move (not run) during your turn" (PH p. 122, 126).
 

Correct. The Shield spell would have protected the sorcerer from the N and E opponents, but the W and S opponents would get an AoO as he moved from the first space into the SW space. This assumes he moves and casts in the same round.
 

Well, though maybe not "clear", it is true that the first space is considered non-threatened only if you do nothing other than move for your turn. Since casting Ice Storm is something other than a move, that first square was actually threatened (and so subject to AoOs).

As an aside, it's important to have players state what they intend to do for the round, rather than let them go at it bit by bit. For example consider this:

DM: "Bob, what do you want to do this round?"
Bob: "I want to move back 30ft and cast Ice Storm?"
DM: "Ok, that first step causes and AoO because you are preparing to start a spell."

compared to this:

DM: "Bob, what do you want to do this round?"
Bob: "Can I move back 30ft without drawing an AoO?"
DM: "Sure, that first square is safe since you're just moving."
Bob: "Great. Now I'll cast Ice Storm"
DM: "Um, well then he actually would get a swing at you back there."
Bob: "What, I get teleported back in time to my first step?!"
DM: "No, you never even got away."
Bob: "Well, if he is going to swing, then I'm not going to cast Ice Storm."
DM: "Alright. In that case, he does not get an AoO because all you did is move."
Bob: "Excellent, then I'll cast Ice Storm!"
ad infinitum

Anyway, try to stick to scenario one and avoid these problems.
 

dcollins said:
Clearly an error was made in not allowing AOO's in the first space of movement, if the wizard also cast an ice storm later in the round. AOOs in the first space are banned only if "all you do is move (not run) during your turn" (PH p. 122, 126).

I do not know about your campaign but in my campaign we usually call out the entire rounds worth of actions. Or at least what we intend to do.
 



Re: Re: Shield Spell

It doesn't. If the mage does anything other than take normal moves (since he is hasted he could take three moves) he will provoke the AoO.

Artoomis said:


I don't think that makes any difference.
 

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