Shifters from Eberron

[saucercrab]

He could punch four times, at +18/+13/+8/+3 and attack with one claw at +18. And if he picks up Extra Shifter Trait and chooses Longtooth, he could also get in a bite attack at +13.

The claw attack wouldn't use two-weapon fighting rules, but secondary natural attack rules, so attack routine should be UAS +20/+15/+10/+5 & claw +15. As well, adding a bite into the mix would also be at +15.

 

[saucercrab]

Just trying to understand how the same hand can go from being able to make four attacks to just one attack (while remaining a natural weapon)? Does shifting induce arthritis?

Again, that's how natural attacks work. Your problem isn't really with shifters, but with natural attacks in general. :shrugs:

 

[Klaus]

The claw attack wouldn't use two-weapon fighting rules, but secondary natural attack rules, so attack routine should be UAS +20/+15/+10/+5 & claw +15. As well, adding a bite into the mix would also be at +15.

Actually, it does. The claw attack gained by the Razorclaw shifter trait can be used as an off-hand weapon at only -2. It's a special quality of the trait, as described in the ECS and RoEberron.

 

[saucercrab]

Actually, it does. The claw attack gained by the Razorclaw shifter trait can be used as an off-hand weapon at only -2. It's a special quality of the trait, as described in the ECS and RoEberron.

Whoops, missed that (I'd never consider playing a razorclaw shifter, so I only skimmed that description). That's a weird thing to make an exception for, though, & somewhat supports Bagpuss' view.

I think it might have been a bit cleaner to have shifter (attack) traits follow either all or none of the natural attack rules.

 

[Klaus]

Guess they wanted to differentiate between Razorclaw and Longtooth, with Razorclaw being effectivelly TWF and Longtooth following the usual secondary natural attack rules.

 

[Graf]

Shifters look very hairy all the time.
Look at the picture of the shifter wizard talking with people in the front part of the eberron book.
She's having a conversation, -not- fighting, she wouldn't be shifted.

Think Wolverine's facial hair but covered with all-over-body-fuzz.