Shifter's GWS cancelled by Antimagic field?

[Blood Jester]

IIRC Druid characters who take the PrC get the added perk of being able to interchange parameters between Wildshape and Greater Wildshape. Since there is no HD cap for Wildshape, the Druid/Shifter could kind of go off with some of the GWS transformations. I'm still not sure the PrC can compare to a straight Druid, however, especially when one epic feat allows a normal druid to turn into a dragon WITH supernatural abilities....

I had not thought about this, but it sounds right by the way the ability is written. Can anyone confirm, is this a perk of being a Druid/Shifter over (for ex.) a Wiz/Shifter, that you can shift into any HD size?

This is relevant to me as I am about to start a character who I plan to have take this PrC and would like to know.

 

[Zhure]

Greater Wild Shape, starting at 1st level Shifter, is a spell-like ability. After 6th level it becomes a supernatural ability and thus is suppressed in an AMF.


"As she rises in level, the shifter gains the ability to
assume the forms of creatures with types other than
animal (see Table 5-15 for details), though she cannot
choose a form that normally has more Hit Dice than she
herself does...

If the shifter already has the wild shape ability
from another class, she may convert her uses per
day ofwild shape to uses per day ofgreater wild shape
on a one-for-one basis. She may also mix and match
thebenefits of the two abilities as desired to gain the
maximum advantage for any daily use . Thus, a Drd8/
shifterlhas up to four uses per day ofgreater wild shape,
and she could use the ability to become a Large humanoid
(because an 8th-level druid can become a Large creature and a 1st-level shifter can adopt the form ofa humanoid). In the same manner, a Drd8/Shifter2 could become a Large monstrous humanoid if she wished."

 

[Blood Jester]

I'm guessing that by quoting those sections you are implicitly stating that, yes, a Druid/Shifter could shift to a creature of greater HD then himself?

If so, thanks for the reply, I wanted a little confirmation that I wasn't totally lost in the rye field.

 

[Marshall]

To clarify, I was referring to the Evershifting Form (Su) received by the Shifter at 10th level. Anyone?

Must be a misprint. Your TYPE cannot by definition be suppressed in an AMF. Id also rule that this changes GWS to an (ex) ability.

 

[AEtherfyre]

Must be a misprint. Your TYPE cannot by definition be suppressed in an AMF. Id also rule that this changes GWS to an (ex) ability.

In that case, would you also rule that Shapechange is unaffected by an antimagic field? It also changes the caster's type.

You might want to rethink that.

 

[Blood Jester]

In that case, would you also rule that Shapechange is unaffected by an antimagic field? It also changes the caster's type.

You might want to rethink that.

Not really, the Shifters type stays shapechanger, he just can't use his ability to change shape while in the field.

 

[The Forsaken One]

I would grant an expi Shifter the ability to gain (Su) abilities at a certain level say level 15 in the Prc. BUt not all just things as spell res and ceratin stuff and at level 20 inthe PrC grant all (Su) like breath weapons and such.

 

[Marshall]

In that case, would you also rule that Shapechange is unaffected by an antimagic field? It also changes the caster's type.

You might want to rethink that.

Well, no. Shapechange is just a spell.

What happens to Outsiders, Shapechangers, Dragons and Elementals in your world when they are exposed to AMF? Are they "suppressed"? No, your type cant be suppressed.

As to the changing, Does a Chaos Beast suddenly gain an orderly form? Is a Doppleganger forced back into his 'natural' state? Does AMF cure/suppress lycanthropy?

IMO, I'd call it (Ex)

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Hmm, I don't have my Monster Manual here, but I wouldn't be surprised if Doppelganger and similar creatures would loose their Alternate forms, since these are often Supernatural. (Even if they are called "Natural Shapeshifters")

Mustrum Ridcully

 

[AuraSeer]

According to this SRD page, the Doppelganger's ability is Supernatural. In an AMF, it would be forced back into its natural form but would retain its type of Shapechanger.

The logical interpretation is that the Shifter's ability would work the same way.