Shillelagh
- Thread starter kayn99
- Start date
The description combined with the very specific “Target: One touched nonmagical oak club or quarterstaff” makes it clear that there is a very limited list of weapons that are affected by this spell. If the spell was aimed at a larger field of weapons it would have had “Target: Wooden weapon touched” which I think Brambles and Spikes includes.
Also, there are several differences between club and greatclub that it would be a hard case to argue with the spell specifically listing two medium sized simple weapons. A greatclub is a martial weapon with a much higher damage (d10) that has to be crafted (club cost is zero whereas a greatclub costs 5 gps).
Also, there are several differences between club and greatclub that it would be a hard case to argue with the spell specifically listing two medium sized simple weapons. A greatclub is a martial weapon with a much higher damage (d10) that has to be crafted (club cost is zero whereas a greatclub costs 5 gps).
BLACKDIRGE
Adventurer
Slaved said:
Judgment call. But I think Zathraas has a good point, and I don't think the designers intended the great club to be used with the spell. I mean, think about it, you're talking about 3d8+1 base damage with a 1st level spell. That's pretty gnarly.
BD
frankthedm
First Post
Yes the greatclub is a version of a club. That does not mean a feat or spell that applies to a club also aplies to a greatclub. Each weapon geats it's own name. If the greatclub equaled club, it would have had similar text to the composuite bowsSlaved said:
Greatclub is a martial weapon with it's own weapon entry. Anyone other than a Barbarian, fighter, paladin, or ranger who tries to use it suffers -4 to hit unless they have spent a feat to wield it. A medium druid is free to wield a large club in two hands, but that deals 1d8 damage and inflicts -2 to hit due to it being sized for a large creature.
Last edited:
BLACKDIRGE said:
With a first level spell that must be put onto a nonmagical weapon and lasts for 1 minute per caster level plus the druid must multiclass or spend a feat to be able to use the weapon very well to begin with.
Compare it with the quarterstaff which becomes dual greatswords and is a simple weapon so no extra feat or multiclassing needed.
I am not saying that it is not a lot of damage though, I am just saying that the description says that the great club is a two handed version of a club.
BLACKDIRGE
Adventurer
Slaved said:
It's a gray area. Something that D20 is full of. If your DM (or you) is OK with that kind of damage output for low level characters, then by all means use it. There's certainly enough evidence to make the argument that a greatclub should work with the spell.
Personally, I think it's a bit too powerful, but everyone's game plays different, and what's too powerful for my game may be just right for yours.
BD
I also have to agree, I think that Great Club is not ment to fit in the spell. The damage output is too great for most games I have ever played for low level characters. The fact that it is a martial weapon should tell us something. In addition, it does not fit in the the proper damage progression for being just a bigger club.
Kayn
Kayn
