D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?

[Mistwell]

I think the word missing from a lot of the half-x discussion is the word " ...yet." They are not in the PHB (neither are necromancers) but there is no indication they won't exist later in some form or another.

Agreed. All we do know is they playtested a rule about how to create a mixed-species, and that rule didn't make the final book. Which usually means it didn't get enough positive feedback. So, in theory, that means they're going to try again.

 

[Maxperson]

I think the word missing from a lot of the half-x discussion is the word " ...yet." They are not in the PHB (neither are necromancers) but there is no indication they won't exist later in some form or another.

Not really. Very early on in the thread it came up and most/all of us said that it might be in the DMG and if not, we expected them to show up at some point in some incarnation. Speaking for myself, I'm not going to say "yet" in every post, or at this point in pretty much any post. It has been said and the discussion has moved on from that point.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Agreed. All we do know is they playtested a rule about how to create a mixed-species, and that rule didn't make the final book. Which usually means it didn't get enough positive feedback. So, in theory, that means they're going to try again.

I don't know...they gave up on psionics.

 

[Mistwell]

I don't know...they gave up on psionics.

No? The new PHB is full of Psionics sub-classes. I am pretty satisfied on that front, though I know some others are not. But they did definitely give us those rules after extensive playtesting on them. Generally, they don't give up on things people seem to want. People seem to want a half-elf at least.

 

[Micah Sweet]

No? The new PHB is full of Psionics sub-classes. I am pretty satisfied on that front, though I know some others are not. But they did definitely give us those rules after extensive playtesting on them. Generally, they don't give up on things people seem to want. People seem to want a half-elf at least.

I'm one of those others. There is nothing to those "psionics rules" beyond them calling it psionics. It's just flavor on the existing spell system, with no mechanical backing. No psionic classes, no points, no way to make it feel like something different. Just a label.

WotC gave up. Fortunately 3pp came through where WotC failed. Like always.

 

[Maxperson]

I don't know...they gave up on psionics.

They gave up on a psion class. We did get bastardized psionics in a few subclasses. They also gave up on the psion after multiple attempts. So far half-elves have only had one half-assed attempt.

 

[Maxperson]

I'm one of those others. There is nothing to those "psionics rules" beyond them calling it psionics. It's just flavor on the existing spell system, with no mechanical backing. No psionic classes, no points, no way to make it feel like something different. Just a label.

WotC gave up. Fortunately 3pp came through where WotC failed. Like always.

That's not entirely accurate. Psionic powers generally do not use any material components, which is a mechanical benefit.

 

[Micah Sweet]

They gave up on a psion class. We did get bastardized psionics in a few subclasses. They also gave up on the psion after multiple attempts. So far half-elves have only had one half-assed attempt.

They gave up on psionics as a mechanical concept. Now it's just flavour.

 

[Micah Sweet]

That's not entirely accurate. Psionic powers generally do not use any material components, which is a mechanical benefit.

Fair enough. Pretty weak though.

 

[Maxperson]

They gave up on psionics as a mechanical concept. Now it's just flavour.

How is no components just flavor?