Should WoTC try again with Chainmail?

[VGmaster9]

We all know when WoTC canned Chainmail due to the lack of success, but due you think they should bring it back to make it compete with other wargames (like Warhammer, Battletech, Heavy Gear, etc)? Like Warhammer, it would be a miniature wargame that has you paint your units and could use bigger scale battles then when they previously used it.

Instead of being a part of D&D, it would be completely different from thatt, and MTG, having its own fantasy universe. I tend to view Wizards as a premier user of different types of tabletop fantasy games, even though I don't always agree with what they do with their products (for example, discontinuing Heroscape, a CMG).

While off topic, I'm sure they could do well with making a 5th edition for the board game, Talisman.

 

[Maggan]

Instead of being a part of D&D, it would be completely different from thatt, and MTG, having its own fantasy universe. I tend to view Wizards as a premier user of different types of tabletop fantasy games, even though I don't always agree with what they do with their products (for example, discontinuing Heroscape, a CMG).

I would advise strongly against that, were I asked by WotC to give my advice. They would be going up against an industry giant with tons of experience and a fully functioning network of stores, games and gamers.

They would basically disregard all things they are good at to try to compete in another field where they have little or no experience.

Maybe it could be done, I've been part of a serious challenge against GW (Heartbreaker/Target Games with Mutant Chronicles, Warzone, Doomtrooper, Chronopia and a few other games), but even though there were games and miniatures and all kinds of stuff, the strategy couldn't budge GW.

While off topic, I'm sure they could do well with making a 5th edition for the board game, Talisman.

They'd have to license it from Games Workshop first, and they can't do that until the current Talisman license for Fantasy Flight Games runs out.

Given that WotC seldom licenses their competitors games, I have a hard time seeing that happening. I think WotC should focus on their own board games instead, building a strong stable of games they own in lieu of licensing IP from GW.

Cheers!

/M

 

[cyderak]

They should re-imagine Chainmail in a completely different fantasy-based world. I do like the pre-painted miniatures so I would definitely use the defunct D&D minis line business connections to kick Chain-mail into gear.

Keep the rules and fluff strictly for chainmail and separate from the D&D world.

Instead of stat cards they could do like Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer fantasy by releasing rules books for the Chainmail Skirmish game.

That way the skirmish guys would have their own world and the Pathfinder RPG players, (and I guess the 4th edition D&D players) could buy the pre-painted Plastic Chainmail minis for their Pathfinder and 4th campaigns.

 

[VGmaster9]

They can use rules for skirmish, but the game should mainly be about armies fighting each other. As for pre-painted miniatures, such a thing for these types of games are totally unnecessary for these types of games.

 

[cyderak]

They can use rules for skirmish, but the game should mainly be about armies fighting each other. As for pre-painted miniatures, such a thing for these types of games are totally unnecessary for these types of games.

Its completely necessary.......that means I don't have to paint the minis.

 

[VGmaster9]

Then this game wouldn't be for you. It wouldn't be some collectible miniatures game like Heroclix, this would be an actual wargame. Like I said, it would be like Warhammer, Battletech, and Heavy Gear, which all require miniatures to be painted.

 

[MerricB]

While off topic, I'm sure they could do well with making a 5th edition for the board game, Talisman.

I'm extremely confused by this... mainly because you seem to be.

Talisman - in its "4th edition revised" incarnation, is currently very well supported by Fantasy Flight Games. Five expansions are out so far, the most recent, Sacred Pool, was released in October last year.

It's also in stock on the FFG webstore.

So, why exactly does Wizards need to publish a 5th edition?

Cheers!

 

[MerricB]

Like I said, it would be like Warhammer, Battletech, and Heavy Gear, which all require miniatures to be painted.

BattleTech does not require miniatures to be painted.

Heck, it normally doesn't even require exact miniatures - Proxying is extremely common.

 

[cyderak]

Then this game wouldn't be for you. It wouldn't be some collectible miniatures game like Heroclix, this would be an actual wargame. Like I said, it would be like Warhammer, Battletech, and Heavy Gear, which all require miniatures to be painted.

Well then i'll just see my way out of this scenario because I am hugely for Pre-painted minis. Me and my wife have three kids. I lost the ability to paint my own minis when my first daughter was born eight years ago.

Besides all that, I've seen alot of the "Painted" miniatures presented on alot of the Warhammer tables and let me tell you, the paint jobs looked like paint bottles exploded and the minis were in the blast radius.

I'm too much of a perfectionist. The only painted minis i own cost me $26.00 each to paint.(Not including the price of the actual miniature). And thats for a single mini price.......i'd hate to see tank price or larger. The guy who paints my minis is a phenominal artist. If I win the lottery i'll keep him busy until doomsday painting for me. Until then I rely on Pre-painted for my monsters and NPC's.


Good luck though with the Chainmail thing.

 

[VGmaster9]

I'm extremely confused by this... mainly because you seem to be.

Talisman - in its "4th edition revised" incarnation, is currently very well supported by Fantasy Flight Games. Five expansions are out so far, the most recent, Sacred Pool, was released in October last year.

It's also in stock on the FFG webstore.

So, why exactly does Wizards need to publish a 5th edition?

Cheers!

Meh, Wizards has its own board game anyway, though it's not fantasy themed.

BattleTech does not require miniatures to be painted.

Heck, it normally doesn't even require exact miniatures - Proxying is extremely common.

But the point is, this would be a game that follows Warhammer's style of play. This would be WoTC's first attempt at making a full fledged miniature wargame.