Silence - does it give a saving throw...

[hong]

Would it be possible to get a friendly bard to scribe the silence spell to a scroll then have my wizard copy it to his spellbook? It is an arcane spell when cast from a bard. :\

No, any more than you can do the same trick with cure light wounds.

 

[Dragon Vindaloo]

No, any more than you can do the same trick with cure light wounds.

Blast! That's what my good DM friend always said.... Grrr... Still, I had to check as I'd forgotten about the Silence spell and always wanted it for my wizard.

 

[dagger]

As others have pointed out, Silence is a near-perfect counterspell. Just cast it 5 ft. from the wizard and voila! His spell is ruined because he is suddenly in a silenced area. A vast majority of spells require verbal components. And having all my spellcasters take the silent spell feat just because the PCs are wont to use it as a counterspell is not an ideal solution. Consequently, I rule that any creature either targeted by OR in the area of a silence spell may make a Will save to negate. Incidentally, I do the same thing with a magic circle forced upon an unwilling creature.

Why would his spell be ruined again?

When his turn comes up, he realizes he can't hear anything. He moves.....then casts.

 

[green slime]

Why would his spell be ruined again?

When his turn comes up, he realizes he can't hear anything. He moves.....then casts.

Because the cleric or bard uses a "ready action" to cast silence when the other caster initiates spellcasting.

 

[dagger]

Because the cleric or bard uses a "ready action" to cast silence when the other caster initiates spellcasting.

So the high level cleric/bard has now used his action, so the wizard does a normal move, and is ready to cast again next time.

Or the wizard has Contingency Improved Invisibility (or some other spell), and is very save for one round while he moves out of the silence.

 

[green slime]

So the high level cleric/bard has now used his action, so the wizard does a normal move, and is ready to cast again next time.

Or the wizard has Contingency Improved Invisibility (or some other spell), and is very save for one round while he moves out of the silence.

*Ssssssshhhhh!*

You're not supposed to tell!

 

[pallandrome]

Wow, I'm actually somewhat amazed that neither I nor any of my GMs had ever noticed the Mage-Hand not working thing. Still, nothing prevents you from simply kicking the stone at the cleric.

The Silenced Tanglefoot bag trick (generally accomplished by tying a rock to the bag) is awfully nasty. Unless, of course the goop covers the rock. See, the thing about silence, is that it is generally REAL easy to block. Anything that would block light from a Light spell would block the magical silence from a Silence spell, or darkness from a Darkness spell.

 

[Mort]

Why would his spell be ruined again?

When his turn comes up, he realizes he can't hear anything. He moves.....then casts.

That's why you cast a spell like Evard's black tentackles first. Normally evard's is an inconvience to spell casters (dimension hop, dimension door, teleport and many other spells being readily available) but cast Evard's and have the cleric cast silence- the low strength wizard is hosed, no matter what level, unless they have a silenced teleport or similar available (this is one case where sorcerers have it easier IF they have silence spell and a teleport-type spell available).

My group did this very thing last session and turned a likely difficult encounter into a rout.