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[Horwath]

Not really short of rewrite.

Otherwise ban list. By that ban the worst offenders in the prestige classes, feats, spells etc.

Or PHB+1 use UA druid.
Rewrite you would eliminate the worst offenders and use 4E or 5E engine tidy up skill list.

Or find old guides ban all the good and red stuff (S and D tier now).

just limit full casters to 1/2 character level/round up.

that sorts most of the things

 

[Zardnaar]

@Zardnaar, I know you think there is HP and damage bloat. If you reduce both, don't you, in theory, land the same place? Or is the issue just the actual number of dice rolled, in your opinion?

Number of dice rolled and time taken to add it up.

Damage also hasn't scaled proportionally. Eg an Ogre has triple the HP but low level PCs don't deal triple damage.v

 

[Remathilis]

Have you looked into Pathfinder 2nd edition?

 

[Zardnaar]

Have you looked into Pathfinder 2nd edition?

Yes played the playtest and borrowed the rule book off one of my players.

Whole system left us cold.

 

[Xenolith234]

Yes played the playtest and borrowed the rule book off one of my players.

Whole system left us cold.

I ran it for two years before I realized it wasn’t for me, and our group felt the same.

 

[cbwjm]

Number of dice rolled and time taken to add it up.

Damage also hasn't scaled proportionally. Eg an Ogre has triple the HP but low level PCs don't deal triple damage.v

It's one of the reasons why in 3e a running joke was "friends don't let friends specialise in evocation". The hit point bloat was so high that it made damaging spells less useful than pre-3e.

 

[The Soloist]

Have you looked at Dragonbane? I was in a rut; I couldn't find a fantasy game to my liking and couldn't play TSR D&D either. Dragonbane turned out to be THE game I wanted. It's simpler, gritty and modern. Character progression is slow and combat remains dangerous even for advanced characters.

 

[Zardnaar]

It's one of the reasons why in 3e a running joke was "friends don't let friends specialise in evocation". The hit point bloat was so high that it made damaging spells less useful than pre-3e.

It wasn't as bad as tgat low but yeah not as good as 3.0 or 2E. Blasting went from S tier to B.

Now it's C tier imho. Very situational.

 

[aco175]

I liked each edition at their time. I'm guessing there are elements that I liked better looking back, but I find that pulling at one string means that I pull at them all.

 

[Zardnaar]

I liked each edition at their time. I'm guessing there are elements that I liked better looking back, but I find that pulling at one string means that I pull at them all.

Same. I like a lot of 2E for example but it's on the AD&D chassis (prefer B/X).

Advanced B/X .