Single women gamers
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No buttercup reply, eh? ok - S'probably for the best.
So, a few comments:
Glad to see the threads back online, and of course we're all glad to hear how good Dragon Girl's and Theuderic's relationship is.
The original point of this thread was the lack, in general, of female gamers, and perhaps the impact of having female player in your group (or a female DM, I should mention).
I gave all my personal history not becasue I want to make my life an open book, but becasue I wanted the reader to know where I stood in the gaming social heirarchy. That is to say, soemone who likes to game, but is somewhat shy about revealing this to the general public. And in general a resonable example of someone who is socially ept.
Someone said that they go to out socially to meet 'people' not women, and depending on what interests they have in common, that will determine the nature of thier relation ship. What a great way of thinking! I find that attitude very mature. I think I may be too...passionate?...to wholly embrace this. I seem to like who I like, often in spite of the differnces - or maybe becasue of them (opposites attract factor).
Someone else said that we are not controlled by our hormones as much as we blme. Wholly fasle. Anyone who has had the unfortunatle experience of a brain tumor (Not I), can tell you that when the body releases too much of a certain hormone, our emotion levels respond. We are hard wired to react in certian ways, based on the prescence or abscence of these hormones. I think it was Rel who mentioned calming down once he got older. One reason is his testosterone levels have fallen, changing the way his perspective is colored. On a more misogonystic note: anyone who has dated a girl more than a month knows about a certian time when it's best to tread ligthly. One study does not convince me of anything.
Finally, on the topic of female attire - something I am somewhat of a admirier of, I admit. Most female clothing is meant to highlight their...ahhh...attributes. In most species there is a gender which diplays more color and is on display for the purposes of courtship. I assert that this is the female for humans. Most clothing stores will feature more colors, styles, and cuts of clothing and jewlery for women than men. Men's clothing tends towards the utilitarian. And where exactly do you think the stereo type of women liking to shop comes from?
All these things (hormones, societal influence, and our need to reproduce), influence social gatherings where both sexes attend. That is why I said there is sexual tension at mixed company gaming table. And, I still maintain, is healthy.
PS: DragonGirl: Making love is truly somehitng to be cherished, I agree - But sex without love is a lot better for you than spending time alone consistently. And if you are not in a relationship, there is PLENTY of alone time to be had, if you really need it. Just to give you perspective.
And then there are those out there who 'force' themselves to fall in love so they can sleep with someone. That seems like an equally bad idea...
So, a few comments:
Glad to see the threads back online, and of course we're all glad to hear how good Dragon Girl's and Theuderic's relationship is.
The original point of this thread was the lack, in general, of female gamers, and perhaps the impact of having female player in your group (or a female DM, I should mention).
I gave all my personal history not becasue I want to make my life an open book, but becasue I wanted the reader to know where I stood in the gaming social heirarchy. That is to say, soemone who likes to game, but is somewhat shy about revealing this to the general public. And in general a resonable example of someone who is socially ept.
Someone said that they go to out socially to meet 'people' not women, and depending on what interests they have in common, that will determine the nature of thier relation ship. What a great way of thinking! I find that attitude very mature. I think I may be too...passionate?...to wholly embrace this. I seem to like who I like, often in spite of the differnces - or maybe becasue of them (opposites attract factor).
Someone else said that we are not controlled by our hormones as much as we blme. Wholly fasle. Anyone who has had the unfortunatle experience of a brain tumor (Not I), can tell you that when the body releases too much of a certain hormone, our emotion levels respond. We are hard wired to react in certian ways, based on the prescence or abscence of these hormones. I think it was Rel who mentioned calming down once he got older. One reason is his testosterone levels have fallen, changing the way his perspective is colored. On a more misogonystic note: anyone who has dated a girl more than a month knows about a certian time when it's best to tread ligthly. One study does not convince me of anything.
Finally, on the topic of female attire - something I am somewhat of a admirier of, I admit. Most female clothing is meant to highlight their...ahhh...attributes. In most species there is a gender which diplays more color and is on display for the purposes of courtship. I assert that this is the female for humans. Most clothing stores will feature more colors, styles, and cuts of clothing and jewlery for women than men. Men's clothing tends towards the utilitarian. And where exactly do you think the stereo type of women liking to shop comes from?
All these things (hormones, societal influence, and our need to reproduce), influence social gatherings where both sexes attend. That is why I said there is sexual tension at mixed company gaming table. And, I still maintain, is healthy.
PS: DragonGirl: Making love is truly somehitng to be cherished, I agree - But sex without love is a lot better for you than spending time alone consistently. And if you are not in a relationship, there is PLENTY of alone time to be had, if you really need it. Just to give you perspective.
And then there are those out there who 'force' themselves to fall in love so they can sleep with someone. That seems like an equally bad idea...
Jeremy Ackerman-Yost
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incognito said:
I am going to take a cue from RobNJ and only respond to the pure factual misrepresentation here.
After the last exchange on the subject, I realized my data was largely out of date, so I did a literature search...
It seems the drop in testosterone levels from age 18 to age 55 is about 4%. Actually, it wasn't even statistically significant.
Don't try to B.S. the neurophysiologist.
Rel
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incognito said:
Whoa there my little bean-town buddy. Before I get tarred with the same big brush coming your way, I don't think this was me. Unless you are referring to my quip to Arravis about him "going all day" which was meant as a joke anyway.
Lest my virility come into question (heaven forbid) I still think about sex all the time. I've just learned not to be a jerk about it (a skill that I admittedly lacked in my youth).
Sheesh. I'm not that damn old!
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