D&D 5E Skills and Ability Checks -- Perspective on Consistency vs DM Empowerment

[Garthanos]

It allows him to be more fear inducing a tool (its not the normal shows in them you are right 004 was a different person but not called Bond) I will have to see if I can find it

 

[Garthanos]

If the guy down the block is James Bond, sure.

Bonds skills are way too effective also he can counter spell nuclear missiles ok... its a skill challenge to get in position but still LOL

 

[Garthanos]

I actually tested my accuracy with a tennis ball and the loss of aim if you are under threat of attack at least while throwing can go from 89 to 95 percentiles to 5 percentiles. My brother and I were both pitchers at the time and it made me go hmmmmm and not sure how that translates to anything lol. Maybe a game with interupting attacks

 

[Garthanos]

Bond it seems to me a jack of all trades rogue with hit points that make a fighter blush far more versatile than the 5e fighter in my opinion hey that is a good one for that one thread...

 

[Garthanos]

Hehehe there is one movie that has bond a created character the organization keeps giving the same code name

Ok I misremembered a little (I think I am remembering from seeing it in the mid seventies) it was the campy 1967 Casino Royale and ... "Casino Royale is too much... for one James Bond!" it was more of a one time diversionary trick to throw off enemies.

 

[5ekyu]

I actually tested my accuracy with a tennis ball and the loss of aim if you are under threat of attack at least while throwing can go from 89 to 95 percentiles to 5 percentiles. My brother and I were both pitchers at the time and it made me go hmmmmm and not sure how that translates to anything lol. Maybe a game with interupting attacks

From my limited expertise and experience the primary impact on accuracy is movement, especially erratic movement, of the shooter. It's the big 800 lb gorilla compared to other factors one will normally deal with for direct shots.

If you wanted to model that tp"realism" you should start at something like disad for shooter to giving them advantage if they accept paralyzed like conditions.

But then you really have moved away from movie action hero land. You move to a system that drives you to seek cover, ambush, indirect warfare style play where a shootout is really really a horrible idea.

I did that for a homebrew scifi gritty a long while back. Far more enemies blown up than blown away.

 

[Garthanos]

But then you really have moved away from movie action hero land.

I agree its sometimes interesting and fun to me figuring out how unrealistic "movie action hero land" or "D&D Land" or "legend land" actual is.

That Lars making his snap shots while flipping and rolling and such is pretty cool.

 

[Garthanos]

But then you really have moved away from movie action hero land. You move to a system that drives you to seek cover, ambush, indirect warfare style play where a shootout is really really a horrible idea.

The studies I read in late 90s indicated in modern firefights under 50 yards the accuracy of attacks from both police and adversaries as well as military were circa 16 percentiles presumably with everyone doing the dodging and diving they managed to be less impaired than I and my brother seemed to be but we were at point blank range really. Hmmm we knew if we didnt move we would be hit and moving against a thrown weapon works well.

 

[Tony Vargas]

I agree its sometimes interesting and fun to me figuring out how unrealistic "movie action hero land" or "D&D Land" or "legend land" actual is.

The studies I read in late 90s indicated in modern firefights under 50 yards the accuracy of attacks from both police and adversaries as well as military were circa 16 percentiles presumably with everyone doing the dodging and diving .

I guess that's deadly accuracy by A-Team standards.

Seems like, in some genres, taking heavy fire is just set dressing. Not just guns and blasters that never seem to hit anyone, while tearing up the scenery, but the Fellowship fleeing the orc horde with just Gandalf ending up with an arrow in his hat kinda thing.

 

[Oofta]

I guess that's deadly accuracy by A-Team standards.

Seems like, in some genres, taking heavy fire is just set dressing. Not just guns and blasters that never seem to hit anyone, while tearing up the scenery, but the Fellowship fleeing the orc horde with just Gandalf ending up with an arrow in his hat kinda thing.

Gandalf had the most powerful armor of all. Plot armor. Boromir on the other hand had armor made of aluminum foil.