Sling Stones?

Abraxas

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What do sling stones weigh?
Sling bullets have a listed weight of 5lbs/10 bullets but here is no listed weight for sling stones - anyone know of a listing in any other book?

Given the reduced damage I am leaning toward 5lbs/20 stones.
 

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Sling stones do less damage because they are less dense than lead bullets, but about the same size. So yeah, lighter than bullets. Half as light? I dunno. I just googled, and found that many types of stone are 1/5 as dense as lead, so anything from that to 1/2 could work (sling stones might be a little bigger, volume-wise, than bullets, just to get a bit more weight in the toss).
 

I was thinking half the weight because they do damage as if one size category smaller than the character - weapons for small characters weigh half as much as weapons for medium characters - so go with half the weight.
 

That also works. Me and my silly science :)

I think they didn't bother including weight for a bunch of rocks because they figured most PCs would carry bullets, and if you run out, you don't so much pick up a pouchful of rocks as scrounge for them as you go, so weight isn't really an issue.
 

DanMcS said:
That also works. Me and my silly science :)

I think they didn't bother including weight for a bunch of rocks because they figured most PCs would carry bullets, and if you run out, you don't so much pick up a pouchful of rocks as scrounge for them as you go, so weight isn't really an issue.

True. Though even sling stones are a pretty specific shape, like the bullets...sort of oblong, like a tiny football. Random rocks grabbed off the ground in a hurry would work in a pinch, but you'd have pretty bad aim. Call it a -4 nonproficiency penalty for using improvised ammunition.
 




Nim said:
True. Though even sling stones are a pretty specific shape, like the bullets...sort of oblong, like a tiny football. Random rocks grabbed off the ground in a hurry would work in a pinch, but you'd have pretty bad aim. Call it a -4 nonproficiency penalty for using improvised ammunition.

Or, use the rules actually in the book, and apply a -1 penalty to attack rolls and downsize the damage by one die size.

SRD said:
Sling: Your Strength modifier applies to damage rolls when you use a sling, just as it does for thrown weapons. You can fire, but not load, a sling with one hand. Loading a sling is a move action that requires two hands and provokes attacks of opportunity.

You can hurl ordinary stones with a sling, but stones are not as dense or as round as bullets. Thus, such an attack deals damage as if the weapon were designed for a creature one size category smaller than you and you take a –1 penalty on attack rolls.
 

Patryn of Elvenshae said:
Or, use the rules actually in the book, and apply a -1 penalty to attack rolls and downsize the damage by one die size.

I think we're clear what the rules are in the book. He was just proposing a house rule for using random stones found at the battlefield vs. using stones carefully selected from a rushing creekbed and carried around for use as ammunition. Not any random pebble will work well as a sling stone, after all ...
 

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