Slow and Haste question

[hammymchamham]

The Haste spell doesn't get a Will save. It has no Wisdom score.

Just because I don't like this rulling (only because I see how the rules say the opposite)

Target or Targets: Some spells have a target or targets. The character casts these spells directly on creatures or objects, as defined by the spell itself. The character must be able to see or touch the target, and the character must specifically choose that target. However, the character does not have to select the character's target until the moment the character finishes casting the spell.

If the character casts a targeted spell on the wrong sort of target the spell has no effect.

And the spell says

Slow
Transmutation
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 3
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Targets: One creature/level, no two of which can be more than 30 ft. apart
Duration: 1 round/level
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes
(snip)

Maybe I just don't like this, but what ever

 

[IceBear]

But a slow spell cast as a counterspell is not the same as a normal slow spell. A counterspell is targetting a spell. As Nail said, specific counterspells do not require a saving throw for balance reasons. "Hey cast haste on me and then buff my Will save so a slow spell cast negate my haste spell". Slow vs Haste is like a bucket of water on a fire.

IceBear

 

[hammymchamham]

Thanks Mr. Bear, I guess I kept missing the

Slow counters and dispels haste but does not otherwise affect magically speeded or slowed creatures.

 

[kreynolds]

Just because I don't like this rulling (only because I see how the rules say the opposite)

Oh my god! You thought that was a ruling?!

 

[hammymchamham]

Only because you said so, Mr. Pimp

 

[kreynolds]

Only because you said so, Mr. Pimp

I never said it was a ruling...and I'm not a pimp anymore.

 

[hammymchamham]

I never said it was a ruling

What I ment is you posted from that Faq, that is all

...and I'm not a pimp anymore.

That is truely a shame

 

[kreynolds]

That is truely a shame

Tis de way of tings.

 

[Xarlen]

...and I'm not a pimp anymore.

*weeps* And he's not even the Iconic Icon any longer. Where has the Kreynolds I once knew and teased? *weep*

It's even worse that Hong is calling himself the iconic pimp. He has stolen your pimp cane! You must prevail!