Smallville: Lex-Mas 12.08.2005 Spoilers

[Truth Seeker]

Hey, that sound is not stupid...

I think it is because when Lex gets that feeling he needs sexual healing. It's something that's good for him...


(*sigh* now I've got that stupid song stuck in my head. DOH!)

 

[Truth Seeker]

Man, Luthor had the villian title role, waaaaaaaaaay before Vader. So seeing a updated verison is nothing new, expect seeing how it came about, is heartbreaking.

Now excuse me, I must revive Jeremy.

CLEAR!!!!
-Electrical shock is applied-

Great. So Lex Luthor beceoms a super-villain because he wants to save the life of some chick?

First Vader, now Luthor.

Gosh, I hope they do Stalin next. "I will starve millions of upstart peasants...so that poor Yvelina may live!"

 

[Hand of Evil]

Great. So Lex Luthor beceoms a super-villain because he wants to save the life of some chick?

First Vader, now Luthor.

Gosh, I hope they do Stalin next. "I will starve millions of upstart peasants...so that poor Yvelina may live!"

While it looks that way, I have always seen Lex wanting to be a "savior", he does things (even to the point of making them happen) to have others look on him as a hero. In the vision he stopped trying and just did and people admired him, he found love and happiness. When Lana dies the vision we really do not know if Lex regains the happiness he had for 7 years.

Some of the things from the vision: Lack of Superman, not even discussed, does this mean , a good Lex there is no need for Sups. John Kent still alive and looking slick and a player. Cloe same, aka no Lois!

 

[Orius]

I thought most of the episode was cloyingly sappy. However, I am evil minded enough to appreciate both a drunk suicidal Santa and Lex rejecting love for power.

What I don't get is how Lex lost all his money by bowing out of the state Senate race. I can't belive he'd be stupid enough to give his old man that much control over Lex's own personal finances and power and the like. Lex doesn't trust his old man, and I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have his personal resources. But then it is a dream sequence, so I guess it doesn't have to make sense.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Some of the things from the vision: Lack of Superman, not even discussed, does this mean , a good Lex there is no need for Sups. John Kent still alive and looking slick and a player. Cloe same, aka no Lois!

Superman only exists for us. If Clark was to have a vision he MAY exist from THAT perspective, but why would he exist in a vision Lex was having?

Additionally of course John Kent is alive. Remember again, only WE know that in some versions of supermans story he dies. In some he does not. Lexes entire vision is drawn from elements of his knowledge and desires, not from things we know may or maynot happen.

 

[Dragonblade]

I thought most of the episode was cloyingly sappy. However, I am evil minded enough to appreciate both a drunk suicidal Santa and Lex rejecting love for power.

What I don't get is how Lex lost all his money by bowing out of the state Senate race. I can't belive he'd be stupid enough to give his old man that much control over Lex's own personal finances and power and the like. Lex doesn't trust his old man, and I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have his personal resources. But then it is a dream sequence, so I guess it doesn't have to make sense.

I think the point of it was that Lex achieves happiness by voluntarily giving up all his money and resources and just walking away from it all to just to live a normal middle class life with Lana.

As far as the lack of Superman, I think that was basically to throw doubt on whether Lex was actually seeing the future, or whether he was just dreaming everything. Because if he was dreaming, he would have no way of knowing about the future existence of Superman and so wouldn't put it in his dream.

OR perhaps without an evil Lex for Clark to oppose, Superman never comes into existence... Now, wouldn't that be ironic.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

I dont belive that Evil Lex must exist for Superman to exist.

If i'm not mistaken in most versions of the story Kal-el was sent to Earth because Humanity needed a bastion of good, a guide to help them find their potential. A protector. Thats why he was sent to the Kents, they were the best examples of good in humans that Jor-El could find.

Whether or not Lex existed, the other forces of evil inherent in his world would spur clark to don the cape....thats what makes Clark superman to beginwith.

 

[Arnwyn]

I found the Clark/Chloe/gifts part of the episode to be "cute" and in the spirit of the season and all that (especially the cool overhead city view of him racing between buildings delivering gifts).

I found the dream sequence to make absolutely no sense (to me) with no surprise as to Lex's final decision - which shows basic human nature at its finest (a little something called "hope"). The dream sequence was entirely pointless other than showing "yeah, no wonder Lex became the way he did". His decision made perfect sense based on what he was 'shown' in the dream.

 

[JoeGKushner]

I dont belive that Evil Lex must exist for Superman to exist.

If i'm not mistaken in most versions of the story Kal-el was sent to Earth because Humanity needed a bastion of good, a guide to help them find their potential. A protector. Thats why he was sent to the Kents, they were the best examples of good in humans that Jor-El could find.

Whether or not Lex existed, the other forces of evil inherent in his world would spur clark to don the cape....thats what makes Clark superman to beginwith.

?

I've never seen that explanation before. It's one of the things that makes so many of the "What If/Elseworlds" stories of Superman, like where he lands in Russia, or England, or Apocalpyse, or is raised by the Amish, so interesting.

 

[Klaus]

Actually, in most versions of the Super-mythos, Jor-El rockets baby (or embryo) Kal to Earth 'cause he knows the boy will grow to be nigh-invincible. In the (now forsaken) Byrne version, he also wants Kal to grow in an environment that is less sterile than Krypton (Lara freaks out, but is reassured when Jor-El says that Kal might grow and rule the natives).
IIRC, only the latest movie has Jor-El rocketing Kal to Earth for humanity's benefit.