(Psi)SeveredHead
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Seeing how your eyes are submerged in acid, I don't think darkvision will be that useful. Heck, you should suffer from blindness if you're in there long enough.
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Sneak attack when swallowed whole?
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drnuncheon
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Sixchan said:
Sure - the question (and why there's still a to hit roll) is if you will be able to hit something effectively. The churning motions of the stomach could turn your stab into a mere scratch that does no appreciable damage.
I might allow a rogue to use sneak attack (seeing as how he's a lot closer to the vitals than he was before - I can't believe that you can actively dodge attacks from someone completely inside of you), but I would definitely not count it towards the damage applied towards escaping the stomach - you could go for lots of extra damage or escape but not both.
J
If slicing out of the body of the monster, probably not (because it's just going through amazing self-sealing gullet muscles). If opting to make various checks to shimmy down into the stomach and further on an incredible voyage to the vitals, i can see allowing it possibly for a darkvisioned character who is possibly immune to the effects of the acid. I suppose an intuit direction check might be in order to get your bearings inside the beast, or some other things. Gets rather silly at a certain point don't it.
Dave Blewer
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It was a running joke when we played 2E that the safest place to be when fighting a purple worm was inside the beast...
Now can someone explain to me why the T-Rex has the muscular control to close wounds up that are caused by prey cutting their way free?
Or, for that matter, why once the T-Rex has snacked on 32 flies it is all eaten out and fit to bursting?
Excellent! My 200th post and I got to mention dinosaurs as well!:
Now can someone explain to me why the T-Rex has the muscular control to close wounds up that are caused by prey cutting their way free?
Or, for that matter, why once the T-Rex has snacked on 32 flies it is all eaten out and fit to bursting?
Excellent! My 200th post and I got to mention dinosaurs as well!:
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Dr_Rictus
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That's a good point ... any organ which, by definition, automatically reseals itself shortly after being punctured (as the stomachs/gizzards of all creatures with the Swallow Whole ability do, for rather obvious reasons of game-mechanical convenience) can hardly be called a "vital area."
(Psi)SeveredHead
Adventurer
Hmm...
It isn't just dark, it's also full of opaque liquid. No, you can't see, even if you have darkvision. If you can't see, then your opponent has 100% concealment. I think applying a 50% miss chance would be unfair, but you still can't see well enough to target anything vital.
If you had some way of seeing through the stomach juice, being immune to acid and had darkvision, then you could do more damage from inside than outside.
It isn't just dark, it's also full of opaque liquid. No, you can't see, even if you have darkvision. If you can't see, then your opponent has 100% concealment. I think applying a 50% miss chance would be unfair, but you still can't see well enough to target anything vital.
If you had some way of seeing through the stomach juice, being immune to acid and had darkvision, then you could do more damage from inside than outside.
Malin Genie
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Ki Ryn said:
Actually (in humans anyway) the abdominal aorta is only a inch or so away from the distal end of the stomach...
This came up in one of the GameStoppers series on the Wizards website.
People felt there were some quirky things with the way the scenario played out, but I recall that the ultimate answer was something like "You cant sneak attack things with no discernable anatomy; you cant discern the anatomy of something while inside its stomach; therefore no sneak attack is allowed." Which ends up pretty much the same as what Ki Ryn said.
Just going from medical video of cameras stuffed down various creatures throats, I'm not sure you can tell one end of the stomach from the other while you are inside. I saw some footage of a man trying to retrieve something from a (aenethsitized!) crocodiles stomach; it was all pink, gooey and convulsed a lot in there. Yuck. And filled with parasites. Double yuck. It wasnt so much filled with acid, though it was quite slimey. The problem was mostly that the stomach kept squeezing and twisting around its contents. (I hope that wasnt too graphic for Erics Grandma. ;-)
People felt there were some quirky things with the way the scenario played out, but I recall that the ultimate answer was something like "You cant sneak attack things with no discernable anatomy; you cant discern the anatomy of something while inside its stomach; therefore no sneak attack is allowed." Which ends up pretty much the same as what Ki Ryn said.
Just going from medical video of cameras stuffed down various creatures throats, I'm not sure you can tell one end of the stomach from the other while you are inside. I saw some footage of a man trying to retrieve something from a (aenethsitized!) crocodiles stomach; it was all pink, gooey and convulsed a lot in there. Yuck. And filled with parasites. Double yuck. It wasnt so much filled with acid, though it was quite slimey. The problem was mostly that the stomach kept squeezing and twisting around its contents. (I hope that wasnt too graphic for Erics Grandma. ;-)
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