D&D General So… psionic powers are no longer purely mental?

[Bill Zebub]

I liked baby purple dragon rider. A heckuva lot more than the banneret. And maybe if the Lore Police hadn't nuked the survey, we'd have gotten them instead of the wannabe warlord that barely holds it's own weight.

Stop holding back. Tell us how you really feel.

Feel the anger flow through you.

 

[Bill Zebub]

D&D really can't be all things to all people. No game can, so it's unreasonable to expect such a thing D&D. If you're not getting what you want out of D&D then the best course of action is to find another game. I've found over the years that D&D scratches a particular itch for a certain style of fantasy roleplaying. But I have to engage D&D on its own terms. It's very, very silly terms.

I mostly avoid D&D specific forums now, but when I pop in it seems like nobody actually likes it. Wall-to-wall griping.

So why not find a different game? There are so many of them.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I play D&D still. My contempt for the psionics solution doesn't show up in your data.

1. I'm not upgrading to 5.5

2. Pre 5.5 I stopped engaging with the play tests when the psionics-die version of the psion was buried because it was "too complex".

I think there are a lot of 5e players like myself who have just given up on trying to get the game they want and instead are just making do with the tool at hand.

Okay.

And that wasn't even why that vesion of the psion was "buried". It was unpopular, because it required learning a new subsystem in order to play something that most players don't think merits a whole new subsystem, and because it was an enormous class for no real benefit. Trying to put basically an entire group of classes into 1 class just because they are all psionic was a silly idea from the start, and it is wild that they ever thought it would pass.

As for "a lot"....I think that depends on your definition of terms, but by any usage that I would consider reasonable, I think you're completely wrong and such players are vastly and overwhelmingly outnumbered by people who don't particularly care about the fine details of how psionics show up in the books eventually.

 

[JiffyPopTart]

Okay.

And that wasn't even why that vesion of the psion was "buried". It was unpopular, because it required learning a new subsystem in order to play something that most players don't think merits a whole new subsystem, and because it was an enormous class for no real benefit. Trying to put basically an entire group of classes into 1 class just because they are all psion.

That's essentially what I said? "Oh gosh, I have to learn how to use psionic dice." was too complex so instead let's just grab some paint and write psion on a sorcerer and call it a day.

Meanwhile a subclass of fighter and bards were already using "psionic dice" and it wasn't an issue.

All the psionic dice variant offered was expanding the use case of a pool of dice to make it a focused class mechanic....it wasn't even remarkably novel.