Special Conversion Thread: Angels (and possibly other heavenly creatures)

[demiurge1138]

Hm. Miracle as an SLA 1/year? And they have the ability to bestow a sacred bonus to Cha to particularly worthy mortals? Should this Cha be temporary (albeit a long time, like a year) or permanent (in which case, it should be an inherent bonus, like that granted by wishes and tomes)?

 

[freyar]

Agreed with the miracle 1/yr. I'd say an inherent bonus seems right (might mesh well with some templates in the AB, actually, but I'm out of town and away from my books). Seems like there is a good start on at will SLAs also.

Looks like we jumped to below the astral deva. Is that really right?

 

[Shade]

We sure did, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, we'll spike back up a bit.

The remaining angels in this article look like this:
Powers = 14 HD
Principalities = 11 HD
Archangels = 11 HD
Angels of the Ninth Order = 6-9 HD

Comparable angels...

"Lesser" Angels:
Agathion: CR 9, 7 HD, Str 19, Dex 16, Con 13, Int 16, Wis 18, Cha 17, DR 10/evil, SR 18
Light: CR 12, 10 HD, Str 1, Dex 18, Con 17, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 21, DR 10/evil, SR 22

Devas:
Movanic Deva: CR 9, 6 HD, Str 17, Dex 18, Con 15, Int 17, Wis 16, Cha 18, DR 10/evil, SR 22, +1 flaming greatsword
Monadic Deva: CR 12, 10 HD, Str 20, Dex 16, Con 20, Int 17, Wis 17, Cha 19, DR 10/evil, SR 22, uncanny dodge, +3 mace of smiting
Astral Deva: CR 14, 12 HD, Str 22, Dex 18, Con 18, Int 18, Wis 18, Cha 20, DR 10/evil, SR 30, uncanny dodge, +3 heavy mace of disruption

 

[freyar]

So we're right at the light angel and monadic deva. (Where are those two lesser angels from, btw?) DR 10/evil, SR 22 from both of those sounds like a good fit. I'm thinking these would be perhaps not quite as strong as a monadic, but a little more graceful and charismatic. Str 17, Dex 19, Con 20, Int 18, Wis 17, Cha 21?

 

[Shade]

The monadic deva is from Fiend Folio, and the light was one of our conversions that's in the CC.

I find your ability scores heavenly.

 

[freyar]

Oh, I meant the light and agathion (which I guess is also in the CC). I know the monadic deva (also in the ToH -- I should compare those sometime).

Any ideas on special weapons for these?

 

[Shade]

The term appears to be linked to the attribute "Might", from the Greek root "dunamis" in Ephesians 1:21, which is also translated as "Virtue" (probably due to the powerful nature of these high celestial beings; see quotation below).

"The name of the holy Virtues signifies a certain powerful and unshakable virility welling forth into all their Godlike energies; not being weak and feeble for any reception of the divine Illuminations granted to it; mounting upwards in fullness of power to an assimilation with God; never falling away from the Divine Life through its own weakness, but ascending unwaveringly to the superessential Virtue which is the Source of virtue: fashioning itself, as far as it may, in virtue; perfectly turned towards the Source of virtue, and flowing forth providentially to those below it, abundantly filling them with virtue."

That sounds like holy to me. Maybe a holy halberd? Or holy warhammer?

 

[demiurge1138]

I was going to suggest something flashy, like thundering, but holy definitely works for me. I like the halberd option.

 

[Leopold]

Holy Short Spear of Light? I can never get enough of Spears.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

All Virtues have the following powers which can be used once per round as often as desired: Command; Create Food or Water; Cure Disease, Blindness, or Insanity; Hold Person; Speak with Dead; Cure Serious Wounds; Neutralize Poison; Insect Plague; Raise Dead; True Seeing; and Find the Path. Once per day Virtues may perform a Restoration or Resurrection.

Some of those are a bit too powerful for their probable CR. Compare to angels of similar power:

Agathion: At will - aid, bless, clairaudience/clairvoyance, detect evil, detect thoughts (DC 15), discern lies (DC 17), hold person (DC 16), plane shift (DC 20); 3/day - continual flame, cure serous wounds, dispel evil (DC 18), dispel magic, holy smite (DC 17), polymorph (self only), remove curse, remove disease, remove fear; 1/day - commune, raise dead. Caster level 7th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

Light: At will - aid, bless, detect evil, discern lies (DC 19), light; 7/day - continual flame, daylight, hold person; 3/day - cure serous wounds, dispel evil (DC 20), dispel magic, holy smite (DC 19), polymorph (self only), remove curse, remove disease, remove fear; 1/day - commune, raise dead. Caster level 12th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

Movanic Deva: At will--aid, consecrate, continual flame, create food and water, death ward, detect evil, discern lies (DC 18), polymorph, prayer, protection from arrows; 3/day--atonement, bless weapon, cure serious wounds (DC 17), daylight, divination, ethereal jaunt, hallow, holy smite (DC 18), neutralize poison, plane shift (DC 21), remove curse, remove disease, remove fear; 1/day--commune, raise dead. Caster level 9th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

Monadic Deva: At will--aid, charm monster (DC 18, elementals only), consecrate, continual flame, create food and water, death ward, detect evil, discern lies (DC 18), hold monster (DC 19), mirror image, prayer, protection from arrows; 3/day--atonement, cure serious wounds (DC 17), daylight, dispel magic, divination, ethereal jaunt, hallow, holy aura (DC 22), holy smite (DC 18), neutralize poison, plane shift (DC 21), remove curse, remove disease, remove fear; 1/day--commune, dispel evil (DC 19), raise dead. Caster level 11th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

Astral Deva: At will—aid, continual flame, detect evil, discern lies (DC 19), dispel evil (DC 20), dispel magic, holy aura (DC 23), holy smite (DC 19), holy word (DC 22), invisibility (self only), plane shift (DC 22), remove curse (DC 18), remove disease (DC 18), remove fear (DC 16); 7/day—cure light wounds (DC 16), see invisibility; 1/day—blade barrier (DC 21), heal (DC 21). Caster level 12th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

If attacked, a Virtue will summon 2-12 Angels for assistance.

Summon specific types of angels or a set amount of HD?