Special Conversion Thread: Angels (and possibly other heavenly creatures)

[Shade]

True. There's no reason we can't do both.

 

[demiurge1138]

I like the giving them innate spellcasting, with domains.

 

[freyar]

Just innate sorc spellcasting with domains, or separate sorc/cleric innate casting?

 

[demiurge1138]

Innate sorc casting but can cast cleric and domain spells, like the better dragons.

 

[Shade]

Fair enough. Stick with 7th-level caster?

For ability scores, 1e Str 19 becomes Str 24 in 3e. Keeping the rest of the abilities at 19 might actually work, as it is only slightly inferior to a planetar (Str 25, Dex 19, Con 20, Int 22, Wis 23, Cha 22). I'm fine with a slight boost here or there if you'd like.

 

[freyar]

Caster level needs to be a bit higher to give them enough spell slots. I'd guess at least 10th, but planetars are CL 17 at only 14HD, so there's room for a boost.

Flying without tiring suggests either good Con or a special ability, and giving advice suggests either good Int or Wis. Str 24, Dex 19, Con 22, Int 19, Wis 22, Cha 19 maybe?

 

[Shade]

Looking at the 1e planetar, it casts as both a 7th-level cleric and 7th-level druid, so we can probably just use the same caster level as the planetar.

The ability scores appeal.

 

[freyar]

In that case, since the planetar now casts as a cleric, we might consider making these cast as clerics with some "magicky" domains (Magic domain, for one).

 

[demiurge1138]

I prefer sorcerer with cleric-y spells, rather than vice versa.

I like freyar's ability scores.

 

[freyar]

Well, these aren't necessarily angels, so sorc plus cleric works. Sorc that can choose from cleric spell list, or just a few domains? Like Air, Good, and Healing plus maybe one more?