Special Conversion Thread: Plants

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Updated.

Suggested amount of Listen bonus and Spot penalty?

 

[freyar]

Why not go +4 and -4?

 

[Cleon]

Why not go +4 and -4?

It's looking OK to me so far.

I'm wondering whether we should give it All-Around Vision, since it has four eyes, each on its own stalk.

 

[freyar]

While there is some sense to that, the combination of a Spot penalty with All-Around Vision is dissonant somehow. OTOH, it's just funny enough to do it!

 

[Cleon]

While there is some sense to that, the combination of a Spot penalty with All-Around Vision is dissonant somehow. OTOH, it's just funny enough to do it!

Good point on the Spot penalty.

Their illustration in Dragon #94 doesn't show their eyestalks, by the way, but gives them big googly eyes set above their tentacles. Maybe their stalks can retract into the body?

I can only see 3 eyes, meaning the other one's "round the back". It does look like their eyes are set in a arc of well over 180 degrees, so All-Around Vision does look like a possibility.

 

[Shade]

How about this?

All-Around Vision (Ex): A rekeihs's many eyes gives it a +4 racial bonus on Search checks, and it can't be flanked.

Myopic (Ex): A rekeihs is nearsighted, resulting in a -4 racial penalty on Spot checks, and negating the usual +4 racial bonus on Spot checks attributed to all-around vision.

...or...

All-Around Vision (Ex): A rekeihs's many eyes gives it a +4 racial bonus on Search and Spot checks, and it can't be flanked.

Myopic (Ex): A rekeihs is nearsighted, resulting in a -4 racial penalty on Spot checks made beyond 30 feet.

 

[freyar]

Let's go with the second choice, but instead go with a -8 penalty, so the total is -4 (or spell out better that the +4 Spot bonus doesn't apply beyond 30 ft).

 

[Cleon]

How about this?

All-Around Vision (Ex): A rekeihs's many eyes gives it a +4 racial bonus on Search checks, and it can't be flanked.

Myopic (Ex): A rekeihs is nearsighted, resulting in a -4 racial penalty on Spot checks, and negating the usual +4 racial bonus on Spot checks attributed to all-around vision.

...or...

All-Around Vision (Ex): A rekeihs's many eyes gives it a +4 racial bonus on Search and Spot checks, and it can't be flanked.

Myopic (Ex): A rekeihs is nearsighted, resulting in a -4 racial penalty on Spot checks made beyond 30 feet.

Combine the two?

All-Around Myopia (Ex): A rekeihs' four eyes are nearsighted, resulting in a -4 racial penalty on Spot checks made beyond 30 feet. Its eyestalks let the rekeihs see in every direction, so it can't be flanked.

 

[freyar]

No Search bonus?

 

[Shade]

I'd rather keep 'em separate, for the reasons I've described in other threads: common abilities are good to keep standard for purposes of qualifying for feats, applying templates, etc.