Special Conversion Thread: Plants

[freyar]

The original monster isn't a normal statblock anyway, so we have some leeway. Let's add a Will save at the victim's death. I guess Cha-based makes the most sense. DC 30 seem tough enough?

What do you think about spells to sever the connection? I kind of don't think remove curse or break enchantment are high-level enough, although I might be ok with break enchantment with a high enough caster level on this effect.

 

[Cleon]

The original monster isn't a normal statblock anyway, so we have some leeway. Let's add a Will save at the victim's death. I guess Cha-based makes the most sense. DC 30 seem tough enough?

What do you think about spells to sever the connection? I kind of don't think remove curse or break enchantment are high-level enough, although I might be ok with break enchantment with a high enough caster level on this effect.

Well it specifically says remove curse can prevent soul trapping, so I'd rather use that, probably with a level check.

 

[freyar]

Remove curse doesn't take level checks, and it specifically says some curses are too powerful. I think we've bend the original monster before. I'll think about it.

 

[Cleon]

Remove curse doesn't take level checks, and it specifically says some curses are too powerful. I think we've bend the original monster before. I'll think about it.

Yes, the spell doesn't have a built in level check, but that doesn't stop us adding one to the "how to break the curse" bit of this special attack.

We've already done similar SAs which have a "remove curse that requires a level check" solution.

 

[freyar]

True. Ok, just make it a very tough level check!

 

[Cleon]

True. Ok, just make it a very tough level check!

J'accord!

 

[freyar]

If we're doing a DC 30 Will save, a you'd get comparable odds for success for a 20th level character with a DC 38 CL check (assuming a good Will save). Want to aim higher or lower than that?

 

[Cleon]

If we're doing a DC 30 Will save, a you'd get comparable odds for success for a 20th level character with a DC 38 CL check (assuming a good Will save). Want to aim higher or lower than that?

So, you're suggesting a DC 38 level check? That seems too high. I was thinking more DC 25-30. I don't want them having to hunt down an epic-level cleric to remove the curse.

 

[freyar]

Its CR is likely to be epic anyway, right? I don't want to go lower than DC 30.

 

[Cleon]

Its CR is likely to be epic anyway, right? I don't want to go lower than DC 30.

I was imagining them more CR 18 or so, but then my original concept of them was with CL 15.

The Tree's Challenge Rating will probably be in the lower 20s though, not that far into the epic levels.