Spells that should be rituals or cantrips.

[Kzach]

I was surprised by what spells made it to cantrips and what ones didn't. Same with some that I thought should be rituals.

Comprehend Languages, for instance, is NEVER a spell that I will prepare without foreknowledge of it being useful, and even then, I'd rather a scroll. This is one that should definitely be a ritual.

Then there's Shield. It needs to be reworked, IMO, to be made a cantrip. Cover for one round, castable at-will. So it's there when you need it but isn't taking up a spell slot that needs to be devoted to something actually useful. Either that, or it needs to be beefed up to +4 instead of the piss-weak +2.

Any others that you can think of?

 

[hafrogman]

Continual Light/Flame.

It's got a ritual type cost, it produces a permanent result. It's always just seemed like an odd spell to want to cast often enough to prepare it except when you know you'll use it.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

disagree on shield. Except when it is a reaction and takes away your next action.

Agree on both comprehend language and continual light (which should be renamed daylight except when cast as a ritual)

 

[GMforPowergamers]

disagree on shield. Except when it is a reaction and takes away your next action.

or it disrupts you for the next turn

 

[Trance-Zg]

Rituals that last 24 hrs:

endure elements, mount, leomund's secret shelter, cottage, mansion etc.

 

[Skyscraper]

Good thread idea, and I agree with the OP's suggestions. (Can't XP.)

 

[Yora]

Raise Dead, Plane Shift, Create Undead, Forbiddance, Teleportation Circle, Divination, Scrying, Gate, Planar Binding, AStral Projection, Wish, Permanency, Awaken, Atonement

 

[Ichneumon]

Of course, Wish should have a cantrip version.

Amongst spells that deserve to do double duty as normal spell/ritual, I nominate Feeblemind. Either use as a straight out weapon, or use as a ritual during interrogations. "If you don't answer our questions, Mr Evil Wizard, you'll be using nothing but baby talk for the rest of your days once he's finished."

 

[darjr]

At first I imagined they were all potential rituals. Definitely the ones you list should be.

Looking at the list I don't see a great reason that they couldn't all be rituals. Maybe the ones that could be abused should cost a lot more and take more time, but I'd probably allow it.

 

[Kzach]

At first I imagined they were all potential rituals. Definitely the ones you list should be.

Looking at the list I don't see a great reason that they couldn't all be rituals. Maybe the ones that could be abused should cost a lot more and take more time, but I'd probably allow it.

Now there's an idea!

All spells with a ritual version. I like it!