Spider-Man 3 [may contain spoilers]

This movie was hilariously terrible. Oh my goodness.

I laughed my head off, especially whenever Tobey Macguire tried to act serious.

And, holy s***, the butler. "Ohhh, yes, sir, you know, I've known for all these years that your father killed himself, and that it wasn't your good friend Parker . . . but I thought it was so funny watching you go crazy and try to kill your friend, so I decided not to say anything until now. Really, you're quite a hoot to watch, young master Harry."

And Harry's like, "Where the hell did you come from?!"

And the butler's like, "Never you mind that. Go help your friend on his suicide mission. Heavens know I've been trying for years to get you to off yourself some stupid way like your old man did. Once you do, all your money goes to me! Well I'm feelin' lucky tonight!" *rubs hands together*


I need to photoshop a Hitler mustache on Emo Peter Parker. He's already got Der Furher's hair. *grin*

And the American flag.

And . . . Harry to Peter: "I'm evil! I stole your girlfriend, and now I'm eatin' some pie! Bwahahahahaha!"

lolz This movie sucked so bad. :D
 

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jonathan swift said:
Do you mean sleeper hit or put you to sleep sleeper?


Sleeper as in the movie will enter into the box office and most likely fall alseep from lack of media hype. Luckily, its not going to do too badly considering its lack luster competition (hopefully the Hary Potter crowd will turn out to watch it).
 

RangerWickett said:
This movie was hilariously terrible. Oh my goodness.

I laughed my head off, especially whenever Tobey Macguire tried to act serious.

.....


lolz This movie sucked so bad. :D


Now did it suck so badly that you just have to see it to get a good laugh, or did it suck so badly that you felt like walking up to the ticket person and slugging him in the face for not warning you?
 

I really enjoyed the movie myself- I thought it was really well done, well written and paced- at least up until the third act, which came together too quickly for my tastes. It ended well, but the transition was bad, like there were some whole chunks missing (I suspect there were probably some scenes before the final clash that were likely dropped either from the script or after filming; hopefully the latter, as I'd like to see them in a Director's Cut if so). If they were trimmed for time, I can think of some comedic scenes that played too long that IMO should have been the first on the chopping block as opposed to the dramatic ones (I loved the comedic scenes, don't get me wrong, just not if they were at the expense of some more significant plot points).

Bruce Campbell's cameo in this one was awesome.

The editing on the first fight scene was choppy and rushed. I have a feeling it won't look as bad on a smaller screen, but on the big screen, the dark sequence was too hard to follow.

Really enjoyed Thomas Haden Church's Sandman- a great take on the character, one in keeping with the character of the comic version.
I didn't mind the Joe Chill/Joker-esque retcon myself; I thought it came across really well at the end. It also leaves things open to a Sandman as ally return in the future.

Also-
I really liked the Blob-esque take on Venom's origin myself. I think it went right to the point- alien creature- and any further exposition was adequately covered by Doc Connor's dialogue. I do wish Mr. Evil-Dead had taken a bit more schlocky horror glee in its initial appearance, though- I'd have liked to see the symbiote suck an innocent bystander dry before latching onto Pete's ride. :)

Again, very well done- really enjoyed it. It was just that all-important last act that things kind of fell apart for me. I think part of it had to do with the way the escalating conflict changed so abruptly that it didn't quite flow as well with how the story had developed up to then.
 

It had some mis-steps (some melodramatic moments that looked as if they were guest-directed by George Lucas), but I enjoyed how the film tried to show the spirit and ethos of Spider-Man.

But after the showing last night in Times Square---the audience actually booed the film (rather loudly and lustily). I was shocked. The crowd was young and what was notable to me was that they cheered the loudest when Spider-Man acted more like the Punisher than like a hero---so I wonder if many "Spider-Man" fans really are Spidey fans after all.
 

PeterGirvan said:
It had some mis-steps (some melodramatic moments that looked as if they were guest-directed by George Lucas), but I enjoyed how the film tried to show the spirit and ethos of Spider-Man.

But after the showing last night in Times Square---the audience actually booed the film (rather loudly and lustily). I was shocked. The crowd was young and what was notable to me was that they cheered the loudest when Spider-Man acted more like the Punisher than like a hero---so I wonder if many "Spider-Man" fans really are Spidey fans after all.
My midnight audience was a mix of light boos and that confusing silence. I think it was because it was a disappointing movie. Maybe not a completely bad one, but It was like following up LOTR 1 and 2 with Dungeons and Dragons, the first movie.
 

Wow, folks are being brutal on this one.
Disclaimer:I'm a complete Spidy fanboy.
I thought it was good. I really liked that Harry turned to help Peter in the end, I also always liked his character in the comics and felt sorry for him.
I also liked the way they did Sandman. He was always one of my favorite Spidy villains.
All that being said, I agree that things felt too rushed. I have a feeling that alot got chopped for time. I realized this when wife and I were driving home and I said about how I was surprised at the final scene with Venom and she looked at me and said "Who was Venom?" They never did name it. Overall I really liked it and was not disappointed at all. I'm really hoping that we get to see more in a directors cut...
 

Blastin said:
I realized this when wife and I were driving home and I said about how I was surprised at the final scene with Venom and she looked at me and said "Who was Venom?" They never did name it. Overall I really liked it and was not disappointed at all. I'm really hoping that we get to see more in a directors cut...

That's cause Venom never was in this movie.

Sure they had some sort of Black-Power Suit thing, but no Intelligent Creature.

The Black suit in this one was no Different than Iron Man's Suit, Thor's Hammer, or Cap America's Shield.

Merely a tool (with some pretty nasty drawbacks), but merely a tool.

Seems they were so rushed trying to fit everything in, any sort of Venom as an Actual entity got dropped.

And Brock Sucked. As me wife (big Venom fan) Said "Why is the guy form That 70's SHow being such a Jerk & why do they keep calling him Brock?"

They turned Brock form a Cowardly Bully to a real jerk in the Used Car Salesman Mold.

Really, really, REALLY Pathetic.

Also, why put Gwen Staci in? That boat sailed already. You just needed some Cheesecake to compete with Kristen, you could have named her anything from the Big Book of Baby Names.

Oh, & since they tried to up the Comedy in this one (Largely failing).

You care to gues what Police Chief Staci say after Spiderman saves his Daughter? I'll give you a hint. It ain't

"That'll do Spider. That'll do."
 

This is the best review of it I have read so far, by Nick Mamatas:

I would like to propose a moratorium on the use of lockets and rings as synecdoches for character motivations within films. It's lazy.

Spider-Man 3 is also fairly lazy, though there are some good scenes in it, and it does look like the filmmakers have learned a few things. The film was a fairly decent little romantic comedy about a love triangle involving the frequently concussed and mentally ill, but then a bunch of superhero stuff happened and whatnot.

The movie starts off fairly well: Spidey is the King of New York, but Harry Osborne, the "New Goblin" (as he is called on the credits and on a cereal box I saw yesterday) wants him dead. The first fight scene is actually engaging due to the decision to keep Tobey Magurie unmasked. We got some emotional currency that way, so it was more like watching a movie and a lot less like watching someone else play a video game.

Anyhoo, New Goblin bangs his head, causing what the doctor calls a loss to his "short-term memory", though he actually means long-term memory. So all is hunky-dorey in Harryville, but there is more trouble for Peter. A meteor crashed nearby and it's full of evil melted licorice, and the heretofore unknown second shooter of his Uncle Ben has escaped prison, received a locket from his precious dying daughter, and then fell right into one of those inexplicable late-night open-air particle physics experiments involving sand that scientists always seem to be throwing instead of orgies. Wazzambo, he's the Sandman!

The licorice knits Peter Parker a new suit, and as my mother warned me black clothing would do back when I was a child, it turns him crazy and evil. The filmmakers here take a page from Ron Howard, who in A Beautiful Mind had the laziest method of portraying madness ever - when Nash was insane, his bangs fell across his forehead. When he was normal, his hair was neatly combed.

Another thing swiped from Howard: daughter Bryce Dallas, a great actress given nothing to work with and a horrid blonde dye job. She plays Gwen Stacy, also known as Random Girl #3.

Mary Jane, upset about being a Broadway flash in the pan, alienates Evil Banged Pete, who gets even the only way an evil nerd knows how: he eats too many cookies, yells at his slumlord for being a slumlord, and dances at a jazz club. (Told ya it was the devil's music!) Oh yes, and he also stands up for journalistic integrity, like all Dark Heroes. It's sort of like the bit in one of those Superman movies. In fact, I'm sure someone said "Hey, remember that Superman movie when they were fighting in the junkyard and stuff. Let's do that, but also mix in Satruday Night Fever and Revenge of the Nerds!" For all its derivative nature, it's actually pretty amusing.

Evil Pete also takes on the Sandman in a New York City subway station that is hundreds of feet deep and had a half dozen wooden rail tracks criss-crossing a cavernous, yet oddly rat-free, expanse. Remember Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom? You know, that mine? Yup. As it turns out, if you pour water on sand, you make it upset and trigger an indentity crisis, so Spidey KILLS the man who KILLED his uncle. No, not the guy from the first movie, the guy from just right now. You know, like in Batman.

Thanks to a coincidental church bell, the licorice suit ends up on That 70s Show, who becomes Venom, and like all monsters with big mouths, says "AAAARRRRR!" before doing anything. Well, not quite anything. I mean, it's not like we see him pick up his dry-cleaning and then when the clerk asks for his ticket he hangs open his jaw, goes "AAAAAAAARRR!" and hands it over, then complains about the blueberry speck left on his lapel. But it's close.

That 70s Show and a reconstituted Sandman decide to team up to beat Spidey, and use the never-fail (and by never-fail I mean always-fail) method of kidnapping Mary Jane and placing her somewhere really high up. Spidey gets squished, but New Goblin shows up ready to help his pal kick ass with his Spencer's Gifts inventory of deadly weapons. Spidey defeats Venom with the help of an improvised vibraphone and then defeats Sandman with the smug moral superiority of a Boy Who Learned.

New Goblin gets skewered and conveniently dies, so that the film can end with a funeral (like in the first movie) and because, let's face it, the only reason that kid was in the first movie was because he had a passing resemblance to Willhem Dafoe, who ain't gonna keep doing voice over work and two second cameos salvaged from second unit shots indefinitely. Also, Peter and MJ start boning again.

I will say that this movie was better than the first two, primarily due to the extended comic elements which were missing in the humorless installments, and because the action scenes were crisper. The masks were often off, which is SO handy in maintaining my interest, and the Z-axis was well used in the fight choreography. I have no idea what the hell anyone who wasn't a big nerd back in 1985 will make of the alien licorice/Venom subplot, but That 70s Show does know how to crank up the Eddie Haskellesque smarm, which works.

But God, get rid of the lockets, get rid of the Stan Lee cameos, and for the love of Pete (Parker that is), stop hanging Kirsten Dunst off the side of major landmarks.
 


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