Spider-Man 3 [may contain spoilers]

[WayneLigon]

It was a B. It could easily have been three movies; almost any of Spider-Man's major villains are strong enough characters in their own right to carry a movie by themselves. Harry and Venom certainly are.

I'll be interested in seeing the Director's Cut for this film; I strongly suspect a lot of exposition was cut.

I don't think we need to worry about seeing this cast again for 4, 5 and 6 (if Sony lives up to their pre- pre- pre-release hype and Marvel doesn't find a way to bring it back under it's own production umbrella); Toby's already stated he won't do 4 and even if he did, he'd want script approval. Toby's gotten too big for his britches; all the unmasked Spider-man scenes are, I will bet money one, something he demanded. Once you forget we're coming to see the character, not the actor, the actor needs to be booted from a comic book film. He was good, but there are probably a dozen that can take his place no problem. I'd look for a Jake Gyllenhall in the next one, Shia Lewasshisname if he puts on some muscle, or some new unknown.

 

[Fast Learner]

Dunst won't be back, either, and frankly, good riddance. In a recent interview she said they shouldn't even have made this one. That's way messed up, a truly crappy way to treat the people who paid her ginormous salary.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

) allowing Harry to engineer their breakup as part of his "revenge agenda"...

A pet peeve of mine in the plot snarl where in someone wants the hero or heroe's love interest to do something and they do it all too easily and don't tell their lover. I would like to see that cliche blown apart at least once.

And MJ should have stood up for her self, told Peter she got fired and to be a little less wrapped up in himself. Be a good woman, woman, not a needy woman! It made it harder to like the character.

And Peter never seemed evil, just sullen.

 

[Plane Sailing]

6 - MJ: Dear Kirsten, when you screw your co-star and then break up, try to remember that you get paid to act like you like him, please don't look over his shoulder at the scenery in an attempt not to look at him in love scenes, please. Also, try switching to decaf, it should help with those moods swings, or maybe Midol or Pamprin. What was the deal with the musical numbers? 'Stunning' performance by MJ that gets her fired and her replacement can't even say the word 'wonderful (onerful)', a key word in the song. Please.

Thinking about that, it would have made more sense if Harry had been behind her being fired; i.e. if the revenge via loved ones subplot started earlier.

 

[iwatt]

But to the audience, it doesn't seem like he's all that more powerful, stronger, or quicker. Why Is it an illusion or is he actually more powerful.

I thought the second time Spidey/Gobo fight, it was clear that Spidey was more powerful. In the first fight he can barely hold his own, while in the second fight he kicks Harry's ass. The difference: the black suit.

 

[Fast Learner]

I also thought it was clear

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Me too, though I'm coming from a comic fan bias and know the history.

Of course, seeing Spidey rip that steel grate off the ground (along with sizable perimeter of concrete) might've also tipped me off.

I guess you could argue that Spidey could've done that before. He can lift cars and things. But that kind of brute force is definitely not his style.

 

[Vanuslux]

And MJ should have stood up for her self, told Peter she got fired and to be a little less wrapped up in himself. Be a good woman, woman, not a needy woman! It made it harder to like the character.

Yeah...I was a fence-sitter about MJ the first two movies, but this movie made me hate her. I could have forgiven her getting upset at the review and for getting upset with Peter the first conversation they had about it because he was basically trying to blow it off (with good intentions). However, when she got fired it was horribly wrong of her to not just say "Peter...stop trying to cheer me up about the review, I got friggin fired!". She comes off as incredibly thin-skinned and it makes her attempt to be there for Peter when he's upset about finding out that his uncle's killer is at large come off as pathetic.

 

[GSHamster]

I saw someone say that the movie was like "Raimi wanted to make a movie about Sandman, and the studios forced him to make a movie about Venom."

Personally, they never really established why the suit was bad. Yes, he gets angrier, but he's also going through a breakup, has troubles at work, etc. Doesn't seem that crazy to me.

In a way it sort of reminded me of that Buffy episode when Xander gets split into two halves, and he thinks it's Good Xander and Bad Xander, but it's really Confident Xander and Not-Confident Xander.

 

[Arnwyn]

I just saw it and thoroughly enjoyed myself. No question it's the worst of the three, but I still give it a solid "8".

There were tons of cheeseball moments (and the dance number was completely ludicrous) that made me think I was watching an entirely different movie, but it is a superhero movie, so I've learned to ignore that kind of stuff.

What made up for it, in my eyes, were all the cameos and recurring characters from the previous movies - and they were given a surprising amount of screentime. I love the Willem Dafoe cameo (just like #2), and of course the Bruce Campbell character (this time a french [french!] maitre'd) was awesome. But also the other characters they continued with - Hoffman and Betty Brant from the Bugle, the landlord and his daughter, and my personal favorite Dr. Connors were all there, and all given some pretty decent screentime. That kind of stuff makes me happy.

So even due to the flaws (cheeseball moments, annoying MJ, some leaps of logic, Venom completely undeveloped [though no surprise, as Raimi didn't want him there in the first place]), I really enjoyed myself and think it's a great ending for the trilogy. (I do, however, have little interest in seeing any more.)


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