(Spoilers) Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
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thatdarncat
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Pylar said:
I thought James saved Snape, and Sirius was responsible for tricking him.
oh, and Dinkledog, I've blocked all memories of the Thomas Covenant books. *shudder*
Dinkeldog said:
I don't know that Neville will have much of a helping hand in undoing Moldymort (pppbbbttt) as I suspect that must come down to just Harry and Lord Grumpypants.
However, I do really hope Neville is able to dissassemble the woman (I forget her nameand do not have the book handy) who broke his parents and illledkay Irussay. That would be very fitting.
I really liked the way he was handled in this book. I had to admire that fighting spirit that he showed. I hope his grandmother appreciated what he did.
And Umbridge struck close to home for me. In my fourth grade, my teacher was always promising the entire class things and then taking them away from the class and telling the class she thought we were all stupid and must want to fail. There were otehr terrible teachers I had but this is not the forum to get into that.
WanderingMonster
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That would be Bellatrix Lestrange, Sirius' cousin. Yeah, Neville deserves a shot at her.
This is correct. Sirius really thought it'd be funny if Snape walked in on Lupin on a changing night. Ha ha. James, however, thought better of it. This may be the point where James Potter goes from arrogant teen to not-so-arrogant-teen.
On a tangent, I'm betting we find out that Sirius was a Slytherin. It just fits. There's the whole Legacy thing (did you catch that Phineas Nigellus (Sirius' great-great-grandfather) was wearing silver and green? And besides, Sirius really seems to approach things from a very self-centered point fo view. This will be important when the houses have to unite to save the school. (Harry: "How can we cooperate with Slytherin? They're all evil!" Lupin: "Harry, your father's best friend was a Slytherin." Mark my words.) I'm guessing that each of the Marauders was from a different house.
Enough crackpot theories for now.
WanderingMonster said:
On a tangent, I'm betting we find out that Sirius was a Slytherin. It just fits. There's the whole Legacy thing (did you catch that Phineas Nigellus (Sirius' great-great-grandfather) was wearing silver and green? And besides, Sirius really seems to approach things from a very self-centered point fo view. This will be important when the houses have to unite to save the school. (Harry: "How can we cooperate with Slytherin? They're all evil!" Lupin: "Harry, your father's best friend was a Slytherin." Mark my words.) I'm guessing that each of the Marauders was from a different house.
Enough crackpot theories for now.
I don't think so. I think they were all Gryffindor. Lupin was chosen out of the group to be the prefect because Dumbledore thought he could exert a calming influence on James and Sirius. Phineas (the Slytherin former Headmaster) thought Sirius was a waste, and Sirius wanted nothing to do with his family's legacy, remember.
I'll be interested to see if Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle are at school for Year 6.
So what's up with the O.W.L.s? Didn't the D.A. leave before Harry and crew even finished them all?
Mathew_Freeman
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Loved the book, really thoroughly enjoyed it.
Maggie Smith must be rubbing her hands together and wondering about Best Supporter Actress nominations...
Maggie Smith must be rubbing her hands together and wondering about Best Supporter Actress nominations...
WanderingMonster
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Tallarn said:Loved the book, really thoroughly enjoyed it.
Maggie Smith must be rubbing her hands together and wondering about Best Supporter Actress nominations...
I'm sure she'll give a stunning performance
KidCthulhu
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Personally, I always thought Cho was kind of a waste of space, and wasn't surprised the whole thing fell apart. It was a early adolescent crush, and Harry's attraction to her had nothing to do with who she is or who he is. Clearly he wasn't mature enough to understand her, and she wasn't mature enough to understand him. It seem to me like she was expecting Harry to be both her sounding board for her grief about Cedric and the guy who would make it all better. Not to many 15 year old boys who can handle that, especially from a girl that they haven't really gotten to know.
I loved the way the adults in the world suddenly came into their own. When you're 10, adults are all just cyphers. Nice and not-nice, fun and grumpy. But by the time you're 15, you can understand that adults have their own motivations and their own sorrows. Two people you love can dislike each other, and both still be there for you (Mrs. Weasly and Sirius).
This book was better written than any of the others I thought. I've always found Rowling to be a great storyteller and a not very good writer. I'm beginning to think that her poor sentence structure and akward phrasing may have been due to her writing down to the 10 and 11 year old age group, and that now that she's writing for a more mature audience, her style is less crimped.
I loved the way the adults in the world suddenly came into their own. When you're 10, adults are all just cyphers. Nice and not-nice, fun and grumpy. But by the time you're 15, you can understand that adults have their own motivations and their own sorrows. Two people you love can dislike each other, and both still be there for you (Mrs. Weasly and Sirius).
This book was better written than any of the others I thought. I've always found Rowling to be a great storyteller and a not very good writer. I'm beginning to think that her poor sentence structure and akward phrasing may have been due to her writing down to the 10 and 11 year old age group, and that now that she's writing for a more mature audience, her style is less crimped.
Shadoe's Lady
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stevelabny said:
Well, it's a prophecy, it's not exactly supposed to make sense
In answer to first question: I think he's just looking for any info he can get his hands on. He's already marginally unhinged, so not being able to get his hands on the prophecy probably drove him over the edge. Sometimes the thing you can't have becomes more attractive simply because of its unavailability.
Answer to second: To make it look more important than it is in the hopes of attracting LV so they can give him the smackdown. Or, basically, they weren't so much guarding the thing as setting up watch hoping to catch him.
Those are my guesses. The "weapon" was never a sure thing, it was a supposition.
Tarrasque Wrangler
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Originally posted by stevelabny
1> WHY is Voldy assuming that the prophecy will tell him how he can kill Harry? Seems like a big gamble to me. What am I missing?
The Order doesn't want Voldy to get this "weapon" so they spend so much time guarding it. Podmore is arrested, Arthur almost killed. But
2> WHY are they bothering? the prophecy DOESN'T tell Voldy how to kill Harry. I dont see Voldy getting ANY benefit from hearing the prophecy. WHAT AM I MISSING?
these two questions are eating at my brain right now. I havent read anything on any other board or mailing list or talked in person with anyone, and it is 7am, so maybe i'm missing something. please help.
As far as I can ascertain, it tells Voldemort exactly what it tells Harry: That they are the only ones who can destroy the other one.
1> WHY is Voldy assuming that the prophecy will tell him how he can kill Harry? Seems like a big gamble to me. What am I missing?
The Order doesn't want Voldy to get this "weapon" so they spend so much time guarding it. Podmore is arrested, Arthur almost killed. But
2> WHY are they bothering? the prophecy DOESN'T tell Voldy how to kill Harry. I dont see Voldy getting ANY benefit from hearing the prophecy. WHAT AM I MISSING?
these two questions are eating at my brain right now. I havent read anything on any other board or mailing list or talked in person with anyone, and it is 7am, so maybe i'm missing something. please help.
As far as I can ascertain, it tells Voldemort exactly what it tells Harry: That they are the only ones who can destroy the other one.
