Spontaneous Divine Magic?

[Vanuslux]

I'm looking for alternate versions of divine spellcasting classes which have spontaneous casting rather than prepared spells, particularly druids and rangers. Are there any out there? If not, how would you suggest I balance out the change from non-spontaneous to spontaneous spellcasting?

 

[Crothian]

If you want truely spontaneous casting you have to limit number of spells known. All divine spell casters automatically know all the spells of the levels they can cast. Having them do that spontaneuosly would be way too powerful unless you weaken the class to commoner levels.

 

[Vanuslux]

If you want truely spontaneous casting you have to limit number of spells known. All divine spell casters automatically know all the spells of the levels they can cast. Having them do that spontaneuosly would be way too powerful unless you weaken the class to commoner levels.

I certainly have no objection to limiting the spells known. The question is, would that be sufficient to balance the change?

 

[Bran Eaglecleft]

Channeler!

I created a class called the Channeler for my DnD game. You can download it at:

http://www.community3e.com/dn/class/Channeler.doc

I don't know if that's what you're looking for, but I hope it helps...

 

[Crothian]

I certainly have no objection to limiting the spells known. The question is, would that be sufficient to balance the change?

Frankly, for a cleric I'd nix there spell casting chart and insert Sorcerers. The only problem is with the Domain spells. So, you might just give them those spells in addition to what a socerer gets. IMO clerics have more useful spells then sorcerers so it'll be a darn hard choice about what spells to pick. Especially if one of your domains is not healing.

As for the ranger, I'd modify the bard charts. Use the Ranger spell chart as a guideling and match up the new spell levels and see what it looks like.

 

[Jack Haggerty]

You could simply limit the divine spontaneous caster to spells that are related to their two domains.

 

[WaterRabbit]

Shugenja

Look at the shugenja class from oriental adventures. It might provide the framework you are looking for.

 

[Vanuslux]

Some good suggestions all around. Thanks everyone. I haven't decided what to do, exactly, but this gives me some food for thought.

 

[Crothian]

When you decide what to do, post it. I'd really like to see and hear how this gets handled and then tested.

 

[ruleslawyer]

two more suggestions:

1) Check out the Athasian druid at www.athas.org for an example of a druid with spontaneous casting and a limited number of spells known (like a sorc).

2) The geomancer PrC (from MotW) has limited spontaneous casting and is druid-oriented; possibly right up your alley?